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which has the better sounding lope, the tfs 1 cam or the e303 cam?

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#1 ·
From research, they're so close, my decision may be on which has the meaner sounding lope.

my bro runs a tfs 1 cam in his explorer motor. It's fairly mellow, but sounds pretty mean too. I haven't heard the e cam yet, but I've got a local deal on one for $100 picked up, so I'm leaning towards the e cam....it'll be going on an explorer gt40p motor/ported explorer intake, and either 1.7's or 1.6's...I have 1.7 cobra style rr's now, but not sure if it'll clear with the cam.


what do you all like who've experienced both..
 
#5 ·
+1 for the TFS cam
 
#8 ·
I don't understand...why would anyone pick a cam based on how it "sounds" at idle?
The TFS1 cam will make more power. As a side effect, it'll sound a little "lopier" at idle.
 
#9 ·
come on man u know the lope sounds so bad ass. sometimes i contimplate throwin a big ole cam in mine just so it sounds cool regardless of the performance. lol when its a street car and ur shakin someones windows with just ur cam and not a stereo u gotta l;ove it.. haha but yea E cam is old i have it not very lopey unless u drop the idle to where it almost dies like i do hahaha... but i am upgrading my cam when i build my new nitrous short block next winter.
 
#10 ·
exactly what he said. In fact, it's debateable I suppose if it's even worth swapping the HO cam for a tfs or e cam, but the lope is a huge reason...i had other factors too, the e cam is local deal for cheaper, and being from cali technically comes with a carb certification for emissions....however I'm sure the tfs will pass functional too, and I may stick with the tfs. Another reason, I'm building an 82 notch right now with a rebuilt roller block, gt40's, and a tfs 1 cam is going in that...My 86 vert has the gt40p heads, and I was thinking of running a slightly different cam just to do something diff....however I may just run the same cam in both now.
 
#11 ·
Oh i know the lope sounds sweet, look at the cam specs in my sig! Still though, lope at idle is irrelevant if the car that was next to you a few seconds ago just blew your doors off. Power > noise, any day!

Edit: guess they're not in my sig on this site...236/242 ~.600 lift solid roller
 
#12 ·
never base cam choice off of what it sounds like.figure out what the purpose of the car is I.E drag,street,street/strip.and think of what you want from the car at the end of the build,and go from there.i had the tfs1 with 1.72rr and was verry happy,the E cam works for some,but does it work for you.
 
#13 ·
Don't buy a cam based on how it sounds, buy it based on performance. A large cam will do nothing for you if you can't use it. If you do your combo correctly, you can have both the lope and power.

Think of it this way, buying a pack of magnum condoms may be impressive, but whats the point if you can't use them?

Now if you need those, disregard. :)
 
#28 ·
+2467

If all you want is a big lope at idle on the cheap............... the B cam has a meaner lope than the tfs1 or E cam.

Just watch out for those guys in the civics though...... they will probably smoke you from the light:eeek:
 
#22 ·
Ha, Ha, this is a funny post! I say "live and let live", if somebody wants his/her car to sound better and is asking which sounds better of two fairly comparable cams then more power to 'em! :rofl:

You have to admit the lopey sound IS part of the fun when you put in a "other" than stock cam.
 
#25 ·
+1. lopey cams sound awesome! i wouldnt get a cam to big for my aplication but still, try and get the biggest one possible w/o hurting the performance. ive heard good things about the TFS stage 1. e-cam sounds like a cam that people add jsut for the "sound".
 
#23 ·
i had an ecam and 1.7s a few years ago. i dont kow why some of you guys say it sounds tame like a stocker....mine chopped like hell. As for performance, ive never had a tfs1 cam, i had an almost identical combo as V8only w/the E. It pulled hard 3k+, and it drug its ass around below that. But then again...i had an aod at the time with the wrong stall.....
 
#24 · (Edited)
Hey Bart. Haven't seen you around in awhile.

I have had both cams in a motor. The E was a perfect match for my old 86 with ported stock heads, a T5, and 3.73 gears. Power came on around 3K. With the stick and the gears you could get into the power band easily.

I had both the E and a TFS1 in my old V8 Ranger(the one in my sig that I haven't bothered to change). Both seem to come on around 3K. They sounded different from one another but I can't say one sounded better than the other. You can tell there is a cam in there compared to stock with either one. Well, I can say that the 86 Notch really seemed to chop when it idled cold with the E but then mellowed out when it warmed up.

I also can't tell you which one actually made more power as the combo changed when the TFS went in.

But as most are saying here, you really should choose based upon which will work best with your combo. And I'm not about to give advice there.
 
#27 ·
I have run both cams a tfs 1 and an e cam. IMHO I think that the e cam sounded better (lopey) and had alot more low end but over all the tfs cam was a better performer all the way around. go with the tfs you will be happy with the results and if you really want the lope idle it down as stated above.
 
#29 ·
I dont understand why someone has to get lectured when they post a question like this? It is his money so who cares. Why not just answer his question? I have had both cams and the tfs "hit harder" to me but the E cam made more power in my combo with the same heads and similar intakes.
 
#30 ·
I don't think the posts here are trying to "lecture" him, just point out that in an otherwise mostly stock setup, an "E" cam or TFS1 will kill lowend torque.

You need decent compression, and low gears to get into the power band quickly or your "lopey" idle car will be slower than the stock cam.

If the car is only a cruiser and is never raced, then the sound is cool to listen to. If that is what they want then thats fine.....

We are just trying to give a little friendly advice to try and avoid a thread in 6 weeks saying my car is a dog until 3000 rpm, what's wrong?:)
 
#32 ·
I had a B cam years ago. And as I said it will be a dog unless you have a stick and at least 3.55 or lower gears, or auto with 3k stall and 3.73 or lower gears.

If you have an auto, stock stall, stock gears, forget about it. Puke city below 3k.

I have been building,racing and having fun with fords since 1980, and I have tried many,many flat tappet and H.R. cams.

And if sound is all the poster is looking for, the B cam has that in spades over the E or TFS1.:)
 
#33 ·
I just noticed the poster is in California.......

Just be aware of at least 3 things that lopey idles attract:)

1. Everybody and thier brother wanting to race you at redlights.
2.Cops....(lopey sound and see number1)
3.Gas pumps at most stations you pass (over $3 a gallon in Cali now OUCH)

Don't get me wrong, a well built motor with a nice lope and all matching components in the cars combo is a beautiful thing.Just a stocker with a fat cam is not for me.

And in Cali, be very careful with cam swaps or you may have major issues passing emmissions. Consider all things before making a decision.

Good Luck, Dave
 
#34 ·
look up the specs on these cams, find the LSA (lobe seperation angle) this is key to deciding how rough the idle will be (and how badass it will sound at idle)
i would recomend a comp cams magnum roller (forget the part number, its the one in the 1800-5800 rpm range) it sounds amazing at idle, but doesnt really take away to much low end, and still climbs to high rpms compared to stock

i had that cam in my 86 and it sounded really good, untill i blew up my abused 145k mile motor. now it has a knock in with the idle...no fun sounds there

anyways, it will pull allot better than stock too. my 86 pulled past 5400 and fell on its face around 5600 (consider the stock 86 e6 heads only pull to around 4600 on a stock cam) i can only imagine how great this would feel on an e7 long block or even a h/i swap motor that actually likes to breath above 4k rpms.

just my 2 cents, but look at LSA to determine wich will sound lopier