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What will it take to beat a 98 Cobra?

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#1 ·
My friend just bought a stock 98 Cobra, I haven't raced him yet, because I want to be sure that I can when I do. Shorty Equal length headers are on order, and rear end gears are next. We are both about the same in driving abilities, however I am used to my car compared to him since he just purchased it. With my current mods, and my near future mods, do I stand a chance?
 
#3 ·
they're not that fast, unless the've been modded. One stock one around here runs low 14's, and another modded one runs low to mid 13's.
 
#4 ·
Get some shorty headers (to complete your exhaust), 3.73 or higher gears, and an intake like a Cobra or Edelbrock Performer and you should be able to do it. You could also consider putting some 1.7 roller rockers on, while installing the intake.

I've beaten a stock 98 Cobra convertible before. There's one right across the street from where I live. They're not that fast.
 
#5 ·
I've beaten a stock 98 Cobra convertible before. There's one right across the street from where I live. They're not that fast.
Damn Anaconda, your car must have been pretty fast before the heads cam and intake. Are you sure he wasn't parked? j/k man.

I raced one at the track and with my car running 14.2 @ 98 the 98 cobra went 13.9 @ 101 with DR's. I had full exhaust, CAI, 3.73's, Shift kit, 15* timming. He was stock with DR's. It should be a lot easier to beat one with a stick since you can launch better than I could. I had a 2.1 60' without spinning.

Good luck man.

-Billy
 
#6 ·
My buddies 97 went 13.40@103...W/ 4.10's and a chip..

My buddies 98 went 13.7@102...W/ O/R X-pipe and flowmasters

98's are known to have a little more agressive tune from the factory...they usually are a little faster than the previous DOHC motors..

Odds are hes gonna smoke you...

The track times dont really account for how fast they are...1/8 mile they arent really impressive, its when they get up to speed and into the 7000 rpm powerband is when they start pullin like animals

Good tires and gears they are 12 sec cars...
 
#7 ·
One of my good friends BONE stock 96 Cobras went 13.6 a few times. No tires, stock exhaust, not even a shifer. I THINK his mph was 104. I was very jealous...I thought all the cobras were that fast. I guess he got a good one? Then he got an O/R x-pipe and 3.90 gears and a shifter and couldnt get lower than a 13.6. Go figure. I guess all get gained from gears was wheelspin.
 
#8 ·
Lance-G60 said:
One of my good friends BONE stock 96 Cobras went 13.6 a few times. No tires, stock exhaust, not even a shifer. I THINK his mph was 104. I was very jealous...I thought all the cobras were that fast. I guess he got a good one? Then he got an O/R x-pipe and 3.90 gears and a shifter and couldnt get lower than a 13.6. Go figure. I guess all get gained from gears was wheelspin.
They seem to be hit and miss I think..My buddies 97 was a turd when it was stock... I used to serve him with just bolt ons, he got a tune up and some gears and that thing woke up...

My buddies 98 hauled ass bone stock. He ripped me apart until I put my motor together;)
 
#9 ·
Green9550 said:


Damn Anaconda, your car must have been pretty fast before the heads cam and intake. Are you sure he wasn't parked? j/k man.
I suggested an intake. I had my Cobra intake at the time.

Since then, I have added heads/cam, and some other minor stuff like a shift kit.
 
#10 ·
Ok, since were talking street racing... I have a 96 Cobra. Bone stock including wires, and original plugs! My friend has a 2002 GT which has more HP than a 94/95. When we race I take him right from the start and keep sailing right on. In the 1/4 I have him by about 5 cars. Just for kick we traded cars just to see if it was driver and he walked me in my car. If my Cobra runs 13.70 stock, his runs 14.30-14.50 stock. Just think at 100MPH how many car lenghts you will be back in a .70 seconds. All Mustangs are hit and miss. Every year cars have varied by full seconds!
 
#11 ·
Not to be raining on the 94/5 love fest here, but I would think it will take a lot more than an intake, exhaust and gears to make a 215hp car beat a stock 305hp car. Good luck trying! If he knows/learns how to drive the thing, you're in trouble.

Since we're talking about street racing (I assume) then it will come down to who gets the best jump. If you do do it on the road, be careful!
 
#12 ·
in my opinion 4v cobra motors are 75% driver 25% car. my buddy has a 97cobra that went 13.50 bone stock on a 26x10.5 slick. with me driving i got it to go 13.30. since then he has added a gear(4.30) headers, h pipe, 28x10.5 slick, he went 12.70 and 12.00 with a 100hp shot. SO BASICALLY WHAT IM SAYING IS YOU ARE GOING TO NEED A LOT (IF HE KNOWS HOW TO DRIVE) MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE A 150HP SHOT, AND A 3.73. GOOD LUCK
 
#14 ·
95gt/98cobra clone said:
in my opinion 4v cobra motors are 75% driver 25% car. my buddy has a 97cobra that went 13.50 bone stock on a 26x10.5 slick. with me driving i got it to go 13.30. since then he has added a gear(4.30) headers, h pipe, 28x10.5 slick, he went 12.70 and 12.00 with a 100hp shot. SO BASICALLY WHAT IM SAYING IS YOU ARE GOING TO NEED A LOT (IF HE KNOWS HOW TO DRIVE) MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE A 150HP SHOT, AND A 3.73. GOOD LUCK
SOHC need a driver also. They are not automated. I am not sure why people always assume that cobras have no torque and are hard cars to drive? All we need to do is simply drop the clutch at 3500 with the perfect amount of tire spin and hit 300ft/lb at 4800rpm and hold it all the way to 7000 in each gear and watch as the guy next to us is wasting time shifting gears! Dont get me wrong, GT's are great cars I love them. My Cobra is completely stock and I have wasted many GT's. Most with basic Intake, exhaust and gear. Im not trying to be a arrogant A$$ just because I own a SVT but I recommend if he doesnt want to get beat that he get more than an intake and exhaust, they wont give another 100HP to match a stock Cobra.

Just FYI, My cousin has a 95 GT and he can hang side to side with me. His mods are

-3.73's
-Ported Stock Heads
-GT-40 Intake
-Longtubes
-Flowmaster Catback
-BBK CAI and Pro-M MAF

We hang with eachother until im in 3rd doing 120MPH and he shifted into 4th long ago.
 
#15 ·
MKoebra95 said:
Not to be raining on the 94/5 love fest here, but I would think it will take a lot more than an intake, exhaust and gears to make a 215hp car beat a stock 305hp car. Good luck trying! If he knows/learns how to drive the thing, you're in trouble.

Since we're talking about street racing (I assume) then it will come down to who gets the best jump. If you do do it on the road, be careful!
That's true. I did leave off the fact that I had my springs and subframe connectors when I raced him. I also had my then new Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 tires in 275-40-17

The other guy may have been a lousy driver too.
 
#16 ·
Anaconda,
I still don't see how you would have betten a 98 cobra with an intake. That just dosen't make sence. I mean, he could have been a horrible driver, but an intake wouldn't have made you fast enough to beat a 98 cobra with 305 fwhp. What do you have to do, put it in to drive and hit the gas? LOL I doubt your car would even come close to it back then, with out heads and cam. Sorry man, itr just sounds like bull ****.

-Billy
 
#17 ·
95AgGT said:
My friend just bought a stock 98 Cobra, I haven't raced him yet, because I want to be sure that I can when I do. Shorty Equal length headers are on order, and rear end gears are next. We are both about the same in driving abilities, however I am used to my car compared to him since he just purchased it. With my current mods, and my near future mods, do I stand a chance?
simple answer.....100 shot of nitrous...that's it. Getchya a Zex kit for about $400 and wave bye bye to all stock cobras excluding the '03
 
#18 ·
thorw a cam in a 94/95 cobra, and youll be putting down as much rwhp as a 96-98 cobra i know a guy that with just a B cam and CAI, put down 265 and 290 flt lbs of torque which is more than the mod motor cobra is gona make in a lower RPM range.
 
#19 ·
Green9550 said:
Anaconda,
I still don't see how you would have betten a 98 cobra with an intake. That just dosen't make sence. I mean, he could have been a horrible driver, but an intake wouldn't have made you fast enough to beat a 98 cobra with 305 fwhp. What do you have to do, put it in to drive and hit the gas? LOL I doubt your car would even come close to it back then, with out heads and cam. Sorry man, itr just sounds like bull ****.

-Billy
I don't know, but I beat him. Maybe he missed a shift. I have no idea. The only thing that I know was I was ahead. Maybe he wasn't flooring it.

I've never talked to the guy to find out. I haven't seen him outside since this happened. He has Navy stickers on the windshield, so I don't know if he is around or on deployment. The car is just sitting there now. It still sounds bone stock (his wife or whatever drives it sometimes)

Anyway, here's what happened: I was going to work one day, and he happened to line up next to me perfectly at a red light. We both had our convertible tops, so we couldn't talk, but we revved back and forth. The light turned green and we both hit it. I am 99% sure that he floored it. Maybe I had a slightly better jump, but by the time we were doing about 60, his front bumper was even with my rear bumper. It stayed like that until we hit about 80, and then we both seem to let off the gas at the same time (another traffic light was ahead).

As for "What do you have to do, put in drive and hit the gas" yes, basically.
 
#22 ·
Anaconda said:


I don't know, but I beat him. Maybe he missed a shift. I have no idea. The only thing that I know was I was ahead. Maybe he wasn't flooring it.

Maybe I had a slightly better jump, but by the time we were doing about 60, his front bumper was even with my rear bumper. It stayed like that until we hit about 80, and then we both seem to let off the gas at the same time (another traffic light was ahead).

As for "What do you have to do, put in drive and hit the gas" yes, basically.
Good kill. Anything can happen on the street. I'm not gonna call :bs: on you because there's no way to prove it either way and I have absolutely no reason not to believe you.

That being said, my opinion is that if a stock to very mildly modded 96-8 Cobra pulls up next to a gears/intake/exhaust 94/5 GT, I'm betting big money on the Cobra EVERY TIME. I'll probably loose a few times, but on the whole I'm gonna make some nice money to mod my car when it's all said and done ;).

This isn't a put down of our cars. To answer the question, it will take about 270 RWHP. You start life with 195 +-5, so you'll need 75 HP from some where. A 100hp shot, a blower, or heads/cam/intake/ exhaust with a good tune & gears on all of combos will do it.
 
#23 ·
Realisticly...it will definatly take heads/intake/cam combo...or a supercharger by itself to beat one. My motor is stock with just my supercharger and I will take one easily, and I'm still into the car for $4000 less than it would cost to buy a 96 cobra. So I'm happy. But before the supercharger I reaced my friend that went 13.6 and it was a joke...I felt like I was in a civic or somehing. I'm talkin bus lengths between us. Kinda off topic..but with my supercharger I went up against a supercharged 96 cobra...he obviously beat my but I actually hung with him. As soon as the end of 3rd came he was GONE but we were close until then.
 
#24 ·
I am going to say good kill too, but it just doesn't happen that often. I can't wait to see some track times for that car. When are you going Anaconda? Take it easy.

-Billy
 
#25 ·
...well since I happen to own both...:joy: :joy: :joy: I think I can have an opinion on this one. The '98 snake with an equal driver will outrun you. Especially if it has any mods at all. Those things respond to even the most minor breathing enhancements like no 5.0 ever could due to its extreme breathing potential. Are they "the stuff", no. I wish ford had stuck with the 5.0 and I would rather have the 5.0 to drive every day cause the 4.6 DOHC is simply a pig at low rpms. It doesn't take that much to outrun one but I am just looking at your mods. Could you drop a little cash and 1 saturday in your car and run with him, sure.
You have to run the guts out of the DOHC to get it to go while the 5.0 driver is simply gas and go. Not to mention that my 5.0 has 140,000 miles on it. I am starting to suspect my 4.6 DOHC will never even get close to that.
Be happy with what you got. Long live the 5.0!