dude, i have been wanting to do this too. i know that lexus and the 350z have the same bolt pattern.

 

the Rx7 also has the same bolt pattern, but I have no clue about the offsets. Remember when the mitzubishi 3000gt/dodge stealth wheels were getting bolted to the first 5 bolt conversion fox cars? I suspect the 350z/370z or g35/g37 may make the best candidates.

 

mazda

 

just to add a little more to this, with so many wheels being replicated, why aren't some of these designs being done. yes i do have sc reps on my car for the time being. i guess what i am getting at is 17in ponys? or 17in ten holes? and 5 lug 93 cobras?come on! i think they are ridiculous, so having the ability to make a wheel, couldn't we get someone to do a limited run of something different?

 

Different=$$$$

There are many "other" wheels available to fit mustangs but they usually come with a higher price tag than the "reps".(see exotic wheels pic thread)

 

Most of the exotics have a bolt pattern of 5 on 4.75+". The 'Vette crowd is also 5 on 4.75. A lot of the imports, however, have similar bolt patterns.
-Kyle

 

I spent a long time checking into this. Days of hours looking at aftermarket, then OEM. I can't tell you too much on backspacing, but I'm pretty familiar with the bolt patterns now. Here's a short list.

Bolt Pattern:

Do Not:
BMW
Porsche
Lexus
Chevrolet
Volkswagen
Audi
Jaguar

Do:
Nissan
Infiniti
Some Toyota
Honda
Acura
Some Dodges (Challenger, Charger)
Mazda

 

Can anyone verify if early 2000's Dodge Magnum 18" wheels would fit an SN95? Looks like specs are 5x115 with +21mm offset while the 18's for a Mustang are 5x114.5 with +24mm offset being common. It would appear to me they will not, based on other sizing methods for things like bike tires (26x1.5 isn't equal to 26x1-1/2) but perhaps that 0.5mm doesn't mean much?

 

You're kind of limited to Japanese sports car platforms, like the Supra & Z cars, RX-7's etc. Most have a little more offset but nothing that couldn''t be fixed with a spacer. Another option is some of these JDM importers selling used aftermarket "tuner" wheels. Most are 2 or 3 piece & are cheaper than buying new.

FWIW, two of the cars pictures do not have OE wheels. The BBS on the Beemer & the Simmons on the Porsche are not OE.

 

lots of those wheels from other brands will bolt up but hte offsets will be all off.

only car that runs comparable offsets as the mustang would be the 350z and g35. u can also look at supras and lexus SC but these tend to run high offset.

 

240sx, 350z, rx7, G35, Supra all have like bolt patterns. However the offsets are different. Check out sites like the V8 RX7, RX7 Club and Fresh Alloy and you can find all kinds of wheels for sale. I know that Volk makes specific fitments for Mustangs. Special order but with long wait times and minimal extra cost.

 

Too bad BMW wheels don't fit, they have the BEST stock wheels hands down. Stock deep dish FTW....

I have always loved these wheels & wish I could bolt em' up on a fox coupe....

 

Dustin, the M-parallels you have pictured above are exactly the wheels I have wanted to toss on my Cobra.

You know they are 18x9.5" rear with a dish right?

 

I would like to see wheel replicas come out with a replica CCW Classic in the 18x9/18x10 variety lol...

To the post just above mine, you have to know the wheel width for the offset to mean anything

 

Can you comment on the close bolt pattern- whether its practically the same or radically (unusable) different?

 

FWIW, a little searching came up with this thread. It appears there is a true .7mm difference in the bolt circles resulting in each stud being .35mm off (thats less than 1/64th of an inch). People have run it without problems, though.

 

I'm too lazy, and too far removed from my engineering education, to try to calculate how much shear stress that sort of offset would put on the wheel stud. However, as someone who has plenty of engineer training, I have to think the OEMs and aftermarket wheel manufacturers differentiate between 5x114.3mm and 5x115mm for a reason (or 5x4.75" and 5x120mm). If the difference was insignificant, then aftermarket wheel makers would advertise bolt patterns as 5x114.3/115mm.

There are guys who mix and match the bolt patterns, but it's not something I would do. However, I saw these posted on another site recently, and thought there were a pretty slick solution if you wanted to mix and match your bolt patterns. Not cheap, but some of the more expensive "normal" lugnuts cost about the same, so they're not too unreasonable.

 

Nissan/Infiniti wheels do share the same bolt patterb, but the hub size is smaller than the Mustang.

I tried to put one of the wheels off my G35 into my Mustang and it wouldn't sit flush because the Mustang hub was larger than the center hub bore of the wheels. So it wouldn't fit. 350Z's share the same brakes as the G35, so i assume a 350Z wheel will not fit. You'd basically need to bore out the center bore larger to slip the wheel onto the Mustang hub.

However, as you can see here, Mustang wheels easily bolt up to imports with a purchased hub spacer inside. In fact, as i've found from the G35 boards is that it's usually common to need to purchase hub spacers for aftermarket wheels because they come with the larger center bores.

 

Those Saleens look great! <unbiased opinion >

 

As I mentioned a while back in this thread, Subarus and Evos are getting more and more aggressive with wheel fitments (wider widths and shallower offsets), so there are some wheels out there that are marketed to the STI/WRX/EVO crowd that will fit on a Mustang. Same goes for the previously mentioned 350/370Z, RX-7/8, etc.

I have 2 sets of Rota wheels for my Subaru and 1 set of Rotas for my CTS-V (actually, the first ever set of Rotas for the CTS-V, since it was my idea ). They make a couple of wheels that would fit on a Mustang and I think would look good.

The Rota Grid, which is a 6-spoke design with thick spokes, is available in 17x9" +25mm, 17x9.5" +30mm, and 18x9.5" +20mm or +28mm.

The Rota P45R, which is a beefy 5-spoke design, is available in 17x9" +25mm, 17x9.5" +30mm, and 18x9.5" +20mm or +30mm.

There are a number of places that sell Rotas, but I've gotten all of mine through www.wheeldude.com. Unfortunately, their search function isn't always the best, so going directly to Rota's website might yield better results. In addition to what I mentioned above it looks like there are suitable fitments for the D2 (17x8.5", 18x8/8.5/9/9.5"), IKR (17x9"), P45R2 (18x9.5/10"), P45F (17x8", 18x8/8.5/9/9.5"), SVN (18x8.5/9"), and Torque (17x8/9/9.5", 18x8/8.5/9/9.5"). There are actually even more than that, but some of the designs I just don't think would look right on a Mustang (like the G-Force, for instance). Others may disagree with me.

 

A couple years ago one of the mustang mags had a five lug fox with Ferrari wheels. I believe the bolt pattern is close enough that you can enlarge the lug holes and it will line up. They aren't cheap bit if you really want different you can't beat a set of 360 wheels.

 

Interesting discussion.

Patrick, I wish I had your Cadillac.

 

Hi guys, I no longer own a Mustang, but I was thinking about this thread the other day, particularly regarding OEM BMW wheels (5x120mm) for applications requiring 5x114.3mm like Ford/Nissan/Lexus/Infiniti/Toyota.

When it comes to OEM wheels, BMW seems to be the cream of the crop. They offer a lot of styles with aggressive factory offsets. Here is a reference showing all the wheel varieties... everything from deep dish staggered, to mesh, to anything else you can think of:

BMW wheels & rims .bmw style wheels and rims catalog

I'm particularly a big fan of the style-37, style-65, style-95, and style-128.

I've discovered that there are at least a half dozen wheel shops here in California that specialize in "redrilling" wheel bolt pattern up to 6mm in diameter difference and as a result, drilling from 120mm to 114.3mm is possible and many people have done it.

The process involves drilling a larger hole in each existing lug hole with the drill axis moved slightly in from the existing hole axis. Then a steel insert is placed into your newly drilled hole and you are set. Of course this is a CNC process (the steel insert shown in black below):

Wheel shops here in Northern Cali are charging between $50-75 per wheel for the procedure.

I've never seen BMW wheels on a Mustang (I really wanted to do it before getting out of the scene), but I think they would look great and the offsets of the four styles I listed above are very friendly to the 79-04 Mustang world... aggressive without being over the top.

If anyone gives it a shot, don't forget the hubcentric attachment rings (about $10 on ebay) since the BMW wheels, like many aftermarket wheels, have a larger hub diameter than the Mustang does.

Here are some examples of cars with 114.3mm bolt pattern using the redrilled BMW wheels:

Also, I found this on foureyedpride. It looks like someone redrilled a set of 7-series wheels and did a test fit to a fox:

I always though that these dished wheels would look great on a fox (18x8.5/18x9.5):

And the 05-up would be right at home with a set of M5 wheels (19x8.5/19x9.5):

These BMW wheels are wide and have aggressive offsets from the factory. I also like the fact that they are an OEM wheel which means there's lots of them out there and the quality wil be excellent.

Hope to see this on a Mustang one day from someone on the corral.

Cheers!

Luke

 

An item also that has to be considered:
1. The wheel must have a hub centric design of 70.6 or greater. 350 and 370Z's have the same pcd, but the hub is smaller.
2. Dish wheels have to take in concern the x factor with the brakes.

-- just my 2 cents

 

That's correct.

Typically, the brake item above is not an issue since BMWs commonly come with large brakes and plenty of inner wheel brake clearance, but it's safe to verify before spending money on a redrill.

You bring up a good point about the hub diameter. If your brake hub diameter measures less than the wheel hub diameter, hubcentric rings are the ticket and cheap. If your wheels have a smaller hub bore diameter than your brake hub, then the bore of the wheel needs to be opened up via CNC and things get expensive.

For reference, the 7 series BMW wheels above have a 72.6mm hub (similar to many aftermarket wheels designed to fit an assortment of cars).

For an OEM wheel, BMW nailed it all around imho (design, offsets, brake clearance, large hub diameter).

 

My Anny wheels on my daily. The offset was actually good too. Lol... Just I stalled them to take the pic, then removed them.

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I've had interest in combining factory stuff and /or crossing brands to create something unique too. Dunno why... but checking out the classified.. I had the same thought back in 2002, someone was selling a set of Moda R6's for a Mazda RX7. The seller was nearby and in need of cash, he let me take 2 home, I did a test fit and it was perfect; bought them and still have them.

The Moda's were a Tire Rack brand, from an Italian wheel factory. Most Moda went on European cars like Audi, MB, Porsche, in various bolt patterns and offsets. Turns out the Mazda fitment 18x9, 5 114.3mm and offset at 45mm was the ticket for my Fox on M2300k brakes, and having a nice 18x8 up front meant no tire rub and a nice staggered look. And I could run 245's in the front, 275's out back for the right look.

My daily driver was soon a Lexus GS430. Same 5x114.3 bolt pattern. So now my staggered set fit both the Mustang and Lexus. Due to the centerbore of hub difference, I had to put the correct centering ring in place for the Lexus hub, and of course the lug nuts were metric on that car but it was cool having them fit both cars.


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My next tinker project is a set of Porsche wheels on the coupe. A set of 18x7.5 front and 18x10 rears off a narrow body 911.. hehehe

 

Funny you bring up the GS430. My daily driver (and hot rod) right now is this. It is sitting on BMW 7 series wheels that have been redrilled from 5x120 to 5x114.3mm

 

Funny you bring up the GS430. My daily driver (and hot rod) right now is this. It is sitting on BMW 7 series wheels that have been redrilled from 5x120 to 5x114.3mm

Cool, I read something on that at ClubLexus... what are the sizes/offsets on those BMW wheels? Another cool BMW wheel is the 09 550i 20" M Sport ones.. look great on the 550i..

GS430? Well they are great cars, this 01 has been trouble free for over 100k miles of use. I actually have owned 2, a 99 GS400 and the 01 GS430. So reliable and just completely solid. This one has 145k on it and running strong. I am tempted to upgrade to an 08/09 Lexus GS 460.. for the 340 hp.. prices are comign down now the the new styled 2013 GS350 is out.. and no more v8 is offered...

 

19x9 24mm
19x10 24mm

Been waiting for someone to put these on a 05+ Mustang. I think they would look perfect.