[Highjeep]

PayPal won't tell you?


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[Zak Attack]

Idk. They aren't suppose to give out the information on people like that. I will look on myside and see if I can find anything.

 

[SilverSmith82]

Paypal won't give it out unless you can make a shipping label if you sell the person something. Only thing I can think of is pose as an interested local party on the CL ad and try to get an address out of him that way. Then call the cops with his info.

 

[Zak Attack]

He contacted me yesterday through a PM after he got notified of the claims. I will get my money back at the least. I just wanted the heads.

 

[Highjeep]

That guy sounds like a huge piece of crap.


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[SilverSmith82]

He contacted me yesterday through a PM after he got notified of the claims. I will get my money back at the least. I just wanted the heads.

Don't be so sure, he may just be stalling for time. Common tactic. I'd have already called my bank and charged back the credit card. Let paypal deal with this idiot and get your money back right away.

 

[nucworker]

shady tactics

If the seller is stalling it may be to allow time for the paypal transfer to go to his personal account. I agree with the previous post, call the card company and get your money now.

You gotta love these kinds of people. :livid:

 

[SilverSmith82]

If the seller is stalling it may be to allow time for the paypal transfer to go to his personal account. I agree with the previous post, call the card company and get your money now.

You gotta love these kinds of people. :livid:

In two weeks time that money is long out of his account. He may be stalling for time to keep it from being frozen if he's in the process of scamming others though. Like I said, charge back that credit card now. Even if you for some reason used a debit card you can still do a chargeback, its just a lot more paperwork. If you used a bank transfer... well... dunno, you might get $175 from Paypal...

I really hope you used a credit card.

 

[Caddylackn]

I am glad you are getting your money back. For future reference for everyone buying parts online:

Here are some ways to help prevent this type of fraud.

1. Buy from sellers with positive feedback or at least a minimum amount of posts that shows they are real members, not just someone who joined to sell parts. That phony seller had NO posts that were not related to parts being sold.
2. Buy from sellers that are active members, that have a reputation to lose. Somebody that sold their ride six months ago and are selling left over parts may be perfectly happy canceling their membership after getting rid of their crappy parts. When buying online, the seller protecting their reputation is your only security. Somebody that is never going to post on here again, has nothing to lose.
3. Always ask for more pictures. If they cannot text or post you a photo from the angle you requested, they do not have the product, period. In the original ad, somebody asked for another photo, did the seller post it? NO. Huge red flag.
4. Offer to pick it up and pay in person, or only buy from someone that can post a verifiable address. You can always tell them you have a cousin or another forum member that lives in their city and can possibly pick it up. If they won't let you pick it up and pay in person or tell you their address that is a huge warning sign that they don't have the product or it is totally misrepresented. When they do tell you their address, then just say you want it shipped. No harm done in this little white lie.
5. If you feel that somebody is misrepresenting a for sale item or it is possibly a scam, Call them out on it in the ad but do it nicely. You might look like a d.ck but if it is a scam what it does is send a record that is searchable on the internet in case this is a scam and the seller tries to pull this scam on another forum. Do a search on TFS heads for sale now, and you can pull up this discussion. Somebody else doing research from possibly this same crooked seller's ad on another forum will pull up this discussion and recognize the photos.

 

[SilverSmith82]

He's not getting is money back unless he charges back his CC. Its been 2 weeks, the guy is stalling for time. Been there/done that. You can't play nice with these ppl.

 

[1wild90]

I am glad you are getting your money back. For future reference for everyone buying parts online:

Here are some ways to help prevent this type of fraud.

1. Buy from sellers with positive feedback or at least a minimum amount of posts that shows they are real members, not just someone who joined to sell parts. That phony seller had NO posts that were not related to parts being sold.
2. Buy from sellers that are active members, that have a reputation to lose. Somebody that sold their ride six months ago and are selling left over parts may be perfectly happy canceling their membership after getting rid of their crappy parts. When buying online, the seller protecting their reputation is your only security. Somebody that is never going to post on here again, has nothing to lose.
3. Always ask for more pictures. If they cannot text or post you a photo from the angle you requested, they do not have the product, period. In the original ad, somebody asked for another photo, did the seller post it? NO. Huge red flag.
4. Offer to pick it up and pay in person, or only buy from someone that can post a verifiable address. You can always tell them you have a cousin or another forum member that lives in their city and can possibly pick it up. If they won't let you pick it up and pay in person or tell you their address that is a huge warning sign that they don't have the product or it is totally misrepresented. When they do tell you their address, then just say you want it shipped. No harm done in this little white lie.
5. If you feel that somebody is misrepresenting a for sale item or it is possibly a scam, Call them out on it in the ad but do it nicely. You might look like a d.ck but if it is a scam what it does is send a record that is searchable on the internet in case this is a scam and the seller tries to pull this scam on another forum. Do a search on TFS heads for sale now, and you can pull up this discussion. Somebody else doing research from possibly this same crooked seller's ad on another forum will pull up this discussion and recognize the photos.

Thanks funny coming from someone who has been a member since 2012 has 0 feedback and 4 posts...just sayin.

When I started it took selling 3 items to get my first feedback now my score is 52 but I bet I've made near 100 deals. I'm just pointing out POS feedback number may or may not be what it really should be.

I've had 2 NEG feedbacks one from a guy that didn't know what he was buying even through he saw it in person then wanted his money back because he made a mistake and the other from a guy that I personally never made contact with. Tell me how that happened?

 

[SilverSmith82]

Also the thing about the pic request is bull####. I was selling a motor I had in a storage unit 20 minutes away at one time and a guy requested a bunch of pics even though I had like 20 of them up in the ad. It was also winter and rainy/cold that week and I had interest from a few other ppl and did not feel like driving out in the rain and digging it out of storage so tire kicker could have a pic from 45 degrees to the right of #1 cylinder or something... Wound up selling it to someone who wasn't an idiot, came to look at it and was GTG.

 

[Caddylackn]

Thanks funny coming from someone who has been a member since 2012 has 0 feedback and 4 posts...just sayin.

I don't own a mustang, only I have two cars that shares the same motors as mustangs. No real reason to post here since I post on other forums. This forum is an invaluable technical information source to anyone running the 4.6 or 5.0 ford motor, and is an excellent source of used parts. Lots of people with fords from other forums search on this forum and buy used performance parts. It always amazes me that on forums, if you are a "Newbie" they assume you are an 18 yr old kid and this is your first car, and forum and you do not know anything. I have Paypal so I do not need a rep to buy anything.

The other screaming red flag on this deal, was the huge price drop in one day to get it sold ASAP. If he was in such a hurry to get it sold ASAP, why drag your feet taking it out of the car? If I needed the cash ASAP I would have all parts boxed up ready to go.

It is also still not clear how he has one brand new head, and one f'ed up head he ran for sale? What happened to the other used head with only 30 seconds of run time? Why would you own three heads? Did the other head, get so f'ed in only 30 seconds of run time that you would throw away a $1,300 head in the garbage and buy another instead of just fixing the head? Why not sell the other head too?

 

[Zak Attack]

In case anyone was wondering I got my funds back today. Not half, or 2/3's, all of it. So while PayPal may not be your personal favorite. This will be the only method I use on big purchases like this for this reason.

Robert, I was more than fair, we can all be honest and say that you never were going to send them and now PayPal is gonna get their money from your bank. If you would of just sent the heads like you said it wouldn't of been this way, I don't feel sorry for getting my money back.

 

[nucworker]

Full refund

Fn' sweet. Glad you got your money back. I had an experience like this with a guy in Florida. I didn't get the same outcome. Kuddos to you.

:joy:

 

[Lx545]

Score one for the good guys!!!

 

[SilverSmith82]

Good deal. Credit Card chargeback or did paypal actually man up and take care of a buyer for the first time in years?

 

[Rinkytx]

Paypal always sides seller if proper protocol is followed. Must have tracking number provided and signature confirmation upon delivery with in 30 days of purchase by buyer. If your too cheap to follow your going to loose to a lowlife.wise to have paypal account linked to credit card ie ebay mastercard to payoff paypal balance. If its linked to a debit card your real cash can be deducted from bank account immediatly .haveing linked threw credit card any paypal dispute will now have to go threw ebay mastercard, which cant just deduct funds from bank account.it adds another wall of protection to your money of the honest seller probly doing never happy buyer a favor anyway.

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[Rinkytx]

Also the buyer can benefit buying a high priced item using the same method paypal-creditcard-bankaccount, you can purchase a item you don't have cash in hand for item threw paypal.then pay threw creditor,then transfer balance to another creditor with 0% apr balance transfer deal.now you can basically get a loan for second hand items that you bank wouldn't allow. There's adavatages and disadvantages to online transactions just be smart and honest and you wont have any problems.

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[SilverSmith82]

I just always use a credit card even if I have the money to pay for it in the bank account. Just make a CC payment afterwards and use the CC as the wall/protection to prevent a thorough screwing from lowlifes. And yeah... paypal/ebay ALWAYS sides seller even if you have pics to prove you got junk. They pretty much don't give a #### once they have their money, its when they have to deal with banks/chargebacks that they might actually do something.