Someone finally made this thread. I was wondering when it would pop up.

I am pretty sure Chad (On3) may start including gaskets similar to these, in his kits. I think he should, they work.

 

Yea, figured I would make one so there isnt 1000 on3 v band leak threads.

I talked to chad about his gaskets and actually bought a few of them from him to check em out.

Not sure what material they are, probably the graphite stuff but I was gonna try them out for him to see how they held up.

I told him he should include them with the kits and he said he may include them or at the very least have them as an option for people to buy with the kits.

I just know they need something in there if they ever plan on using the stock v band clamps.

 

Awesome! Thanks

 

No need for gaskets. They are a band-aid for a bad design or low quality parts.

 

That sounds just like a b&g/ turbo forums nut swinger statement LOL
The gaskets and new clamps are working good for me so far. If Thats all I have to do extra is use new clamps and gaskets then Ill be happy.
When I am bleeding I love a good band-aid.

 

Thanks for your awesome insightful post filled with great knowledge!

Re-read my original post.

Great, now that you have better v band clamps you may even be able to get away with some rtv copper silicone but unfortunately you may need gaskets like I did.

Do you think I or anyone else using gaskets doesn't know this? The problem is if they dont seal, your gonna need something in there to fix the problem if your not willing to weld all new flanges on.

No #### they are a "band aid"....but If I can spend 30 bucks on some gaskets and they will work for years I am fine with this band aid.

If the gaskets wont hold and blow out every 2 days then that is when I would move on to some new v band flanges but until that is the case, this seems like the best way to get by.

Honestly, If I would have known these wouldnt seal right without gaskets I would have had some higher quality v bands welded on when the kit was off the car.

Unfortunately I am not pulling this whole kit off the car now if I can make it work with a few gaskets and figured this could help some others in the same situation.

Regardless of how v bands are designed to work, gaskets are used everywhere else on cars and arent considered band aids there.

 

Thanks for your awesome insightful post filled with great knowledge!

Re-read my original post.



Do you think I or anyone else using gaskets doesn't know this? The problem is if they dont seal, your gonna need something in there to fix the problem if your not willing to weld all new flanges on.

A little mad you bought cheap #### to start with..... gotcha.:shakehead

Its called cut them off and weld the proper ones on there.

 

Is this for all On3 kits?...I dont think mine are leaking yet..i have a fox body kit...

 

no mad. Gaskets are band aids. I don't even Ren head gaskets on my car

 

No head gaskets? Your like gi joe! You don't need any stinking band - aids LOL.

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Ya man. High quality heads don't need no gaskets

 

good write up , thats what i had to do on my vbands too, but then i came up with a solution , either use male female flanges or run the pipe all the through to the next vband to were it would work like male female flange then just alittle copper rtv an it would be 100% seal

 

On the on-3 kits for downpipe to turbo (70MM) takes 3" vband correct?

 

The title of this thread should be " Why do I continue to have to replace all this cheap #### just to get my #### to work".

 

im happy with mine. i get by with better clamps and rtv. the original ones stripped when you tightened bolt tight.

 

Nice! Like I said in my first post, you can probably get away with just clamps and rtv.


Mine pretty much sealed dry when i tested them

 

Better quality clamps and gaskets are a simple fix IMO

Not sure what kits you are comparing but for us modular guys we don't have many options....hellion base kit is like 6k

2k dollar on3 kit and a few headaches works for me

 

didnt know you were a mod guy i was talking for the 5.0 / 5.8 stuff guess i could have asked it just seems there is so much drama following the on 3 stuff

maybe this will help some

http://cgfabrication.com/shop/category_5/Ford-Racing-Kits.html?shop_param=cid=&

 

Yea 4.6 2v. Those looks like very quality hot sides. Hopefully the on3 hot side doesn't fall apart on me.

 

Yeah cheapest option for us Modular guys besides ON3 is Hellion which is $4,000 more expensive than the ON3 kit so I will be happy to buy a tube or 2 of gasket sealent, a couple clamps, and a couple gaskets totaling less than $100

 

You can get CG Fabrication's hot side, coat that and buy ebay knock offs to finish the kit up (which would be the same parts as the On3) and have not much more into the kit then the On3 except you'd have a much nicer quality hot side that would last much longer.

 

the guys at cg fab are making my new kit its 434ci with a 106mm street car so i think that they may be able to provide some pics for you 4.6 guys they were super helpful on helping me decide what i am going to use

 

maybe this will help some

Ford Racing Kits - Items - CG Fabrication[/QUOTE]

Never seen that company, thanks for the link.

 

 

Still not seeing the correlation. When does a time in someones sig exactly relate to thier knowledge of racing?

I will answer...... it doesnt. You have no idea what was done to run those times,when those times were ran,or what car it was that even ran times.

 

I don't care. Your slow on and off the track. Again, if you don't like on3 stay out of my thread.

 

I don't care. Your slow on and off the track.

Again, if you don't like on3 stay out of my thread.

Really you drive a 2 valve. You know the laughing stock of motors in the performance world and you're calling someone slow. :rofl::rofl:

Second it doesnt matter if its on3 or hellion or whoever. If the vbands leak the proper way to fix is to reweld new ones and make sure they are flat.

No gasket is needed.

 

I think this is getting way off topic. I think the best thing to do is ignore him. I have a $2000 turbo kit that I had to put about $100 more into to get it to work just as good as a $4k kit. Im happy. That's all I care about.

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OP.....keep us updated on your results sir.

 

Yes sir, I will

Currently the car has 4.10s waiting to be swapped to 3.27s and needs to be retuned.

Only tuned on 8 psi or so now and its running lean now that the leaks are gone.

Made a quick video of a second gear kick down, car spools up pretty much instantly

 

I just got the rear end back in my car with the 3.27s. I can't wait for it to stop raining so I can try it out.

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Yea man, 4.10s blow.

I barely see boost in first gear, I dont think it makes boost till 5k in first and by then it just blows the tires off instantly.

 

I bought a full set of THESE gaskets. They're designed specifically for V-Bands and they're much cheaper than those you posted. I'll let you know later this week how they hold.

V-band Sealing Gasket, 2.5" - 034 MOTORSPORT

 

They don't work very well. Any little bit of exhaust gas that touches them melts them right away. They may work ok if you make 100% sure they are centered on the flange when you tighten them. the 3 bolt flange gasket from race part solutions is only like 4 bucks I think. They work lots better.

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