That's what I'm doing.

Stage 1 + 1.7's. Yes, it clears fine according to TFS. I just picked up injectors so I hope to finish the install this wekend. Once I get it running I will report back. Should hit the track next Fri. night.

JL

 

Hey:

IMO, I think the CRANE 2031 will work better with your combo then the TFS Stage 1.

The CRANE POWERMAX (formerly Compucam) 2031 was designed around the 93-95 Cobra motor really. If you use GT40 heads and 1.7 rockers....it works great. I love the cam - the idle is not bad either. The cam REALLY wakes up around 3000 RPM. There is a good amount of mid range torque and power.

Specs: 214/220 @.050 .513/.529 with a 112 lobe sep.

I ordered mine through www.re-racing.com they were like $20 cheaper than Summit Racing. I paid $159.99 from re-racing and Summit racing was $179.99.

Here is a link to more info on the 2031 - I highly recommend it.

http://www.cranecams.com/master/apps/ford17.htm


-Rob-

 

Stage 1 + 1.7's. Yes, it clears fine according to TFS. I just picked up injectors so I hope to finish the install this wekend. Once I get it running I will report back. Should hit the track next Fri. night.

JL

please let me know how much of a difference you feel. are you just swapping cams? because thats essentially what im going to do with exception of timing chain and things that go along with it. please let me know!

Hey:

IMO, I think the CRANE 2031 will work better with your combo then the TFS Stage 1.

The CRANE POWERMAX (formerly Compucam) 2031 was designed around the 93-95 Cobra motor really. If you use GT40 heads and 1.7 rockers....it works great. I love the cam - the idle is not bad either. The cam REALLY wakes up around 3000 RPM. There is a good amount of mid range torque and power.

Specs: 214/220 @.050 .513/.529 with a 112 lobe sep.

I ordered mine through www.re-racing.com they were like $20 cheaper than Summit Racing. I paid $159.99 from re-racing and Summit racing was $179.99.

Here is a link to more info on the 2031 - I highly recommend it.

http://www.cranecams.com/master/apps/ford17.htm


-Rob-

we both have the same (give or take) combo. what do you like more about the 2031 than the TFS? other than the fact thats its more lift. is that much lift too much with stock pistons and my GT-40 heads? please let me know the details of your choice with your cam.

thanks,
adam

 

LOL!
All you have to do is keep an eye on the front page of www.fordmuscle.com . Every detail of my cars evolution has been covered.

JL

 

Jim, seriously, make sure you degree the cam in. Shaun degreed an Anderson N-41 cam two weeks ago and when installed dot to dot it was off 8 degrees! That could really throw off the accuracy of your article.

 

LOL!
All you have to do is keep an eye on the front page of www.fordmuscle.com . Every detail of my cars evolution has been covered.

JL

you do have "better" flowing heads than i do though. but i would still like to know how much of a difference the cam swap makes for you. as well as the drivability of the cam. please keep me informed.

thanks,
adam

 

we both have the same (give or take) combo. what do you like more about the 2031 than the TFS? other than the fact thats its more lift. is that much lift too much with stock pistons and my GT-40 heads? please let me know the details of your choice with your cam.

Well for one, if you ever plan on going supercharged.....the 2031 is designed more for that. Don't get me wrong, it is an excellent N/A cam also. I know a guy running 12.23@113.79mph with this cam and he has the same mods as us give or take a a few and a 75 shot of Nitrous.

I have stock pistons. When I made my motor a 308ci block, I just ordered oversized pistons directly through Ford since my buddy is a mechanic - I get his 10% above cost on stuff:lol:. My buddy Eric who is running 12.23's has a stock 302 block and stock Ford (TRW) pistons and he uses it with 1.72's - his comes out too 214/220 @ .050 .519/.535 with 1.72 rockers and his clears. I may be wrong also but, the TFS cams (according to Summit Racing) are designed around the Twisted Wedge heads. Your running GT40's irons from a Cobra like me.

I don't know what else to say except that I love the cam. I have had the E-303, B-303 and F-303 in previous mustangs and the only one I liked was the F cam but - you can't pass emissions with it. The 2031 is 50 state legal and comes with a carb .

-Rob-

 

I made 256 rwhp with a set of ported E7s and an AOD,J-Dawg made 250 rwhp with GT40 hedas and an AOD.

These would be around 270-275rwhp with a T5.

I have added an electric fan,underdrive pulleys,K&N filter and dumped 2 1/2 inch Dynomax mufflers, since my dyno last November.These mods may total around 20 or so more rwhp.

I ran the E 303 cam in another combo,ported E5 heads and similar induction.I did not like it, and used way more fuel than this combo. ~15 mpg instead of ~22 mpg.Same gears,same carb,similar flowing heads,same exhaust,basically the only difference is the intake(dual plane Performer,instead of the single plane Torker 289 I run now) and the cam.

The cam makes great all around power all the way past 6000 rpms in my combo and I use it in an everyday driver.Ride to work is 65 miles round trip

The TFS #1 cam works great with around 9-1 comp (stock) and will work in many,many other combos other than the cookie cutter TFS TW and TFS intake combo.

 

Cobra intake ported, AFR's, TFS stage 1 cam, 3.55's

308rwhp

12.37@109.3 on slicks.

 

sounds good, anybody else?

thanks,
adam

 

just a question, how much do custom cams run for?

 

depends on who you go with... mainly about $250 -$350 (for the better).... if i can pull the money together this is what im going to do but for now i want to have an off the shelf cam that i know i will get if i cant afford it.

take care,
adam

 

Ohhh Yeahhhh!

Cam is in. anybody got a smoke? I'm spent..


Set FP to 38psi, 16* timing, idle at ~850. ONce the cooling sysytem was burped and refilled went for a ride. Verrrry nice! Pulls very hard to 6200 and when I hit 2nd WOT the Nitto DR's spin for about 20 feet, used to not do that at all. Was shifting at 6k 1-2, 5800 for 2-3, 3-4 on the stock cam. Little bit of surge at idle but no low speed driveability issues. No bucking or surging cruising around in first or second. Looking forward to this coming weekend!

:joy: :lol: :joy:

JL

 

I originally bought the Crane 2031 for my supercharged combo. But after toying around with the Engine Analyzer program and after some real world research I opted for the Stage1 and sold my Crane 2031.
I couldn't be happier, it'll pull all the way to redline easily and it has very nice street manners. It sounds aggressive at a lower idle also if you're into that. The only other cam I'd consider on my combo is a custom. hth

 

Cam is in. anybody got a smoke? I'm spent..


Set FP to 38psi, 16* timing, idle at ~850. ONce the cooling sysytem was burped and refilled went for a ride. Verrrry nice! Pulls very hard to 6200 and when I hit 2nd WOT the Nitto DR's spin for about 20 feet, used to not do that at all. Was shifting at 6k 1-2, 5800 for 2-3, 3-4 on the stock cam. Little bit of surge at idle but no low speed driveability issues. No bucking or surging cruising around in first or second. Looking forward to this coming weekend!

:joy: :lol: :joy:

JL

so you like the cam a lot? and it feels a lot stronger than the stock cam? are you using 1.6 or 1.7rockers with it? and what about the surging you are talking about? im soo sick of surging i dont even want to start another.... please give me more info and let me knwo what your times improve to when you go...

I originally bought the Crane 2031 for my supercharged combo. But after toying around with the Engine Analyzer program and after some real world research I opted for the Stage1 and sold my Crane 2031.
I couldn't be happier, it'll pull all the way to redline easily and it has very nice street manners. It sounds aggressive at a lower idle also if you're into that. The only other cam I'd consider on my combo is a custom. hth

what was so bad about the 2031 that you didnt like?

thanks,
adam

 

Re: That's what I'm doing.

Stage 1 + 1.7's.
JL

It is a significant power incease over stock. It idles between 800 and 1000, surges back and forth intermittently. Will try to tune that out. Have you tried drilling a hole in the throttle body blade?

 

Faster dammit

how does it pull below 3000 ? do you think the stage 1 cam would work good for an AOD ?

 

Faster dammit

how does it pull below 3000 ? do you think the stage 1 cam would work good for an AOD ?

Have no idea- don't really care, either. If power below 3k is any concern to you then stick w/ the stock cam+1.7's or maybe the small Xtreme Energy (XE258?) w/ intake duration below 215* at .050". The secret to the AOD is a good valve body and properly selected torque converter that is based on the torque band of your combo. I hope this does not come off harsh. I just get tired of seeing so many people get hung up on trading off the low-end torque the stock 5.0 is designed for in favor of more topend.
TANSTAFL (Robert Heinlein)

JL

 

im glad you are happy with the stage 1 cam!~ that makes me feel like i should get that cam (over the 2031).... let me know if you think this is a wise choice...

did you have any clearance issues with the stage 1 and rockers?

thanks,
adam

 

Re: Ohhh Yeahhhh!

Pulls very hard to 6200 and when I hit 2nd WOT the Nitto DR's spin for about 20 feet, used to not do that at all.
JL

Think if I had clearance issues it would be apparent by now...

 

5speed
I have TFS 1 and an AOD. I love it. I have a freshly rebuilt stock bottom end, Performer 5.0 intake, ported stock heads, TFS spring kit, 2800 stall, 4.10's and a shift kit. It has excellent street manners when pulling away from a stoplights (as someone else said) and it pulls nicely. You can play with your idle to make it lope more. I had starting issues, but changed my MAF to a 73mm Vortech and it starts and breathes easier. I've had no bucking issues and still have stock TB. I got my cam before the 10 yr back-order that was going on around early spring.

 

the only thing im thinking about is that you (FASTERDAMNIT) have TFS heads. i heard that the stage 1 cam is specifically ground for those heads (being the same company). do you think it would still perform well with my GT-40 irons?

thanks,
adam

 

Yes, I think the cam would work nicely w/ your heads. I have never run the 2031 so I can't really give you a direct comparison. I did have to upgrade the valve springs to doubles per TFS's instructions (see their website for spring specs.) They said the stock TW springs could handle the lift but would wear faster w/ the 1.7's. I have seen quite a few posts on several boards that praise the driveability of this cam. Drove it again last night and had a great time just cruising and then a couple of WOT blasts on my favorite deserted road. Can't wait for this weekend!

Go 'Niner's!
Go Giants!
Go 'Cocks!


:king:

 

FasterDamnit!,
Off the subject, but you a former South Carolinian? I'm here near Greenville. Saw your Gamecock av.

 

I have the TF #1 as well. I really like it. I had a slight surge at idel, installed the idle plate and cleared it up. It works great with my cast iron heads due to its split lift/duration, helps on the exhaust. Here's my mods: rebuilt shortblock, TF#1 cam, TF street intake, Dart Jr's, 1" spacer, 1.6 RR, 73mm MAF, 65mm TB, equall shorties, OR H-pipe, Dynomax race magnum cat back, 5 speed, 4.10. The car is fun to drine on the street. Runs 13.48 (spinning) @ 104.78mph