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My 25.5 sn95 build

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My Ultra Street 25.5 sn95 build

Well cars been in the chassis shop for a few months now and finally making progress so figured id post up a few pics of the build. Car is a 94 mustang with all team z suspension in the front with strange struts and the rear suspension is from trz using team z indexing lower controll arm mounts and afco double adj coil overs. DC Performance in bel air maryland is the shop doing the car. Plans for the car are to run 8.50 index with it but may run a yr in 10.0 depending on whats in the budget for this yr.
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#14 · (Edited)
Brakes shipped out today. These are the mockup pics I received from baer showing the new kit that will be going into production from what it sounds like after talking with baer so, If anyone out there is looking for a set of front drag brakes for there car and running racecraft drop spindles or stock ford spindles give baer a call! Brakes and my spindles should be back by next thursday and will weigh everything to see the weight difference between these brakes and spindles vs the stock setup.
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#17 ·
I run at Cecil County and have seen their work in action you will be pleased looks great
 
#18 ·
If you run the 10.0 class are you going to leave at idle and shift at 5k /lol
 
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Chassis was built with the intent of running in x275 but, That class just has grown to fast and gotten out of my budget range so, Going to step back to 10.0 for this first yr with a budget built 468 bbc and get some driving experience and a chance to learn the car (first track car). Then after a season or two step up to 8.50 index with the nitrous 498 build.
 
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Good luck you'll need that heavy wallet when you move up/car looks great- E
 
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Weighed the front brakes tonight, with spindles they came in at just under 29lbs per side. Will weigh the stock setup once I pull it off the car hopefully this weekend to see what the weight difference/savings is.

Rear Brakes!
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Quick update, Front brakes are on the car and when weighing them with the racecraft spindles vs stock spindles, rotors, and hubs without having a stock caliper to weigh with them they were still 2lbs lighter so I'm figuring about 7bs lighter per side they are if you add on the caliper weight. Fuel system is ordered just waiting to receive it from weldon, fuel cell is on order at chiseled performance should have both in a week or two. Picked the rear housing up from the poweder coaters last night and got it and the rear suspension into place.
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Main reason for the bbc over the bbf was I already had a spare 454 engine block sitting in the garage not being used so figured I'd threw it in the mustang.

Got a little more done on the car, whole underside is painted up with por15 and got the center console dzused in. Received the fuel cell last week from chiseled performance and fuel system shipped out yesterday from weldon so will get to work this weekend on laying out the trunk and mounting everything and doing the trunk floor and figuring out what I need in order to plumb it all.
 
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Quick update on the car, chassis is most of the way done only thing left being to plumb and wire the car and to put the interior back in and a few other small things so, Now moving my focus onto the motor. Plans for the motor have changed a bit. Picking up a gm iron 5.3L motor tommorow and then taking the block and crank to Joe Newsham at J&E Automotive where he will begin building me a 347" ls motor. From there I will begin work on a single turbo setup using an 80mm turbo with the goal of running in ultra/ultimate street.
 
#28 ·
Joe does killer work! You're going to be in good hands with him.
I'm hoping Ultra street gets some traction. The race we had down at VMP had a pretty good turn out and there a few people that had come up to me asking about what was required to run and were pretty excited about what the rules and possibilities. X275 has progressed at a pretty wild rate and ultra is looking like it could be a very good alternative.
 
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All of my friends who have turbo cars he built the motor for them and all highly recommend him and Joe has always treated me great at the track so he was the only person I considered when it was time for the motor.

From all the talk it sounds like ultra street should be a big hit as it sounds like there is a ton of interest in this class from all the talk on yb about it, I just hope something is done to keep this class in check so it doesn't progress and get crazy in cost and ets like x275. With the et range it had at the test race if it can be kept there I think its a nice alternative and step back from x275 that can be run on a budget.

Want last night to get the motor and guy ended up having two 6.0L motors aswell and actually wanted less money for the 6.0's then he did the 5.3 so I grabbed a complete 6.0 minus harness for $400! After christmas ill take the block and crank to Joe and have him start on doing a L92 headed 370".
 
#30 ·
I'm very close with everything that's going on in X275. I'm actually partnered up with John Sears. His motor was in my car at the test race at VMP. I'm 90lxracer over on yb. Anyway... I'd shoot for making 5.0X power for ultra. I know cars will be very capable of running that.
 
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Really was expecting more of an ET drop between the two classes being most local races 5.0x's would get you in the feild in x275. Going to have to rethink my plans for this class and whether turbo is the way to go or if I should try running a 408 nitrous motor or just go to 8.50 index. If 5.0x's are expected then how long til its another 4 second class? Cecil already has mentioned about a 5.15 cap for this class and any faster goes to x275 but everyone said no to that rule but if your a track what is the logic in adding this class to your program if all the top guys could qualify in x275? If its going to take 5.0x's to be in the top of the feild why not just make x275 a 32 car feild, and it be the same thing and there is less rule restrictions. From a fans point of view why would they want to see identical cars running indentical times in 2 seperate classes? As a 5.20's-5.30's class i see this as being a nice step back from x275 and a entry level heads up class that can be run on a budget but at 5.0's whats the point in it?
 
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I agree with you there. The record of an ultimate street type car is a 5.09 I believe. That's AFTER a rule change, because Brian goss had been 4.98 and he was dumping before the stripe. I know, I was there watching. This is the FL real street rules (basically ultra street) and ultimate street at Donald's races down at SGMP.

For frame of reference, there was one, just one race up here so far and people have run in the mid 5.20's. As with the nature of heads up racing it's only going to get faster. That's why I say build for 5.0X power. It wasn't to try and push a person out, or scare anyone. It's just the realtity of the situation.

I was at the very first race that ended up being what is now X275 and I want to say it was won with something in the 5.50's. I actually set the record that first year with a 5.31@133. This was 2008. Just look where it is now!!! lol

I don't think you need to break the bank to be very competitve in the class to be honest. I know John's motor isn't a million dollar piece just a 23* 410 with a single stage plate and we went 5.29@130. The motor doesn't even have a dominnator on it. Just an holley 950HP.
 
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5.20's to 5.30's shouldnt be to hard or cost too much to be done and thats what i was aiming for with the turbo build cause that would put me where im very competitive and I think its a great step back point from x275 like ive already said but its the 5.0x talk already that worries me. If this class heads in that direction how long til its a 4.90's class and starts pricing and pushing people out like x275 seems to be doing to some now? What can be done to keep this class from being allowed to go crazy with the ets? Whats going to be the draw point where we say your to fast move up to x275 or do we just let them continue to run away with the class and then the middle of the feild guys start to leave or will someone finally in heads up racing say enough is enough and do something to slow them back down to preserve the class? I'm a huge fan of heads up racing im at every outlaw 10.5 and x275 race cecil and atco have and follow them very closely so I know all about class progression but i know at this point if the class is allowed to progress to 4.90's-5.0's or faster it would price me out from running more then likely with this current economy and we all know what a 275 can handle from watching x275 so how much of a limiting factor itll be for this class i don't know.
 
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What will stop it from becoming a 4.90 class at some point. Unfortunately, nothing. It's the nature of heads up racing. I will go out on a limb here and say that X275 is the best and worst thing to happen to small tire heads up racing. Just three years ago as I'm sure as you know, 4.70's was getting it done in drag radial. And it took (nitrous wise) a 632 w/ big chiefs and 3 systems to do it and this was at 3200 lbs. Since "restirctive rules" have been put in place and a smaller tire mandated you now see short deck, convention headed single carb big blocks with 1 system running in the 4.70's at 3250! This is in just three years!

It's outside the box thinking, innovation and maximizing a combination to th "n"TH degree that will get a person to the front. One thing's for sure, Joe will give you the power you need. He's one smart guy, and knows how to make power, and from what I've seen DC performance knows what they're doing. So it's going to be converter and power management that will separate you from the pack.

Have you seen Russel Mc Manous' car? If not, it's a 320" high port motor w/ a promod 85 reduced to an 83mm and he's been a 4.93!