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Is it a street car or a race car, or something in between?

4.1K views 36 replies 17 participants last post by  tmoss  
#1 ·
Header selection always has to be defined based on the title of this thread. Neither street headers on a race car or race headers on a street car is the way to go, in most circumstances. When somone calls us about ordering headers, almost the first question I ask them is how they use their car. Our typical customer says (or thinks) that they have what is called a "street/strip" Mustang, but even that description needs to be expanded. For instance, do they have a race car that they occasionaly drive on the street, or do they have a street car that they occsionally take to the track? Obviously, there is a difference. Customers (or prospective customers) need to know what they need, which is not always what they want. When a Mustang enthusiast tells me that he has a "street/strip" car, my first question is how many miles (on the average0 does he put on his car during the year? He may respond with "about 6,000 miles a year". My next question is how many times does he take the car to the track? A typical response may be, "four or five times a year, mostly to test and tune or maybe to run in the bracket class." From that answer, I then ask how many passes does he make on the average, and he may respond with "four to six runs, give or take". Even if he makes ten runs every time he goes to the drag strip, that is only about two and a half miles (on a 1/4 mile track) or half that on an 1/8th mile track. Two and a half miles times six trips to the drag strip is about 15 miles on the drag strip, versus 6,000 miles on the street. Is that a "street/strip" car? Far from it, it's a street car, and your header selection should be based on that reality.

Okay, enough of that.

The most popular header we sell these days have been the Mid Length Headers, and the funny thing is that about 50% of them are being purchased by all out racers, that NEVER use their cars on the street. We offer the Mid Length Headers in 1 3/4", 1 7/8" and 2" primaires. The 1 3/4" and 1 7/8" use 3" collectors and the 2" uses 3 1/2" collectors. The race guys order the 1 7/8" and 2" Mid Length Headers, and most of the time, they run the headers open, with no exhaust system (as in H or X-pipes and mufflers). Why have so many racers switched from Long Tubes to Mid Length Headers? (1) they cost less and (2) they are lighter weight and (3) they never need to remove the headers to change the clutch or converter and (4) they are much easier to install and (5), the difference in horsepower is minimal. That last one may surprise you. With open headers, everything else being equal, the HP difference is under 10 HP at the top end. And if you run a full exhaust system (including mufflers), the difference on the dyno is almost unmeasurable.

Mid Length Headers go back a long way in all out drag cars. The photo below is a Big Block Chevy 427" Z-11 engine mounted in an A/FX Chevy II Nova, in the early 1960's.
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Like the Mustangs, there is not a lot of room in the engine compartment. The FX rules at the time did require a "full exhaust system" which is why this set has the extensions welded to the ends of the collectors, but they raced with the headers open. Because of width restraints on the Chevy II, the primaires had to be routed over the factory sub frames, which is something NOT required on the Mustangs.
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Clean and neat, eh what? We use the same collectors that are used on the Long Tube Headers. The end of the collectors are pretty much where the firewall and floorboards meet. The driver's side is pretty much the same, and fits between the steering shaft and the engine (the headers can easily be installed from the top)...
 
#8 ·
I’ve put close to 4000 miles on my car this year lone that I open track, autox, occasionally street race, take my kid to and from school, and also take 500 mile road trips with. I should probably drive my SHO more but I’ll do that when I’m ready to be boring.
 
#13 ·
To me, this would be a legitimate "Street/Strip" car, an every day car that also sees plenty of street use. Hanging a license plate on an all-out race car does not make it a "Street/Strip" car in my opinion. Been there, done that. Driving 500+ miles from Los Angeles to Reno, NV with a 4:88 rear end (driving with one eye on the road and the other eye on the gas gage) and mufflers loud enough to shake fillings out of your teeth is just not very pleasent.
 
#16 ·
Interesting....I always just ask the questions that lead the customer to the header that would offer the best performance for their engine specs and horsepower goals. Most of the time, I had to talk the "bigger is better" knuckleheads down by explaining that the largest diameter header available is not the right one for their application. This sometimes required explaining "ricer math".
 
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#27 ·
Back in the 1960s a car that ran in 12s in the quarter mile was probably stripped down and didn't idle below 2000 RPM. Now cars can run 12s off the show room floor with the A/C on. Technology has changed. You can go faster with fewer sacrifices. It's also become more extreme as to what people can and will do with a car that is driven on the street. You got guys with pro mods that can't idle for five minutes without self destructing, trailering their cars to street races calling them "street cars." The difference is in the eye of the beholder, and, thus, is irrelevant. If your car identifies as a street car, it is, and nobody can tell you different.
 
#32 ·
The street vs strip vs street/strip debate is definitely full of many opinions. IMO it’s pretty simple; if you don’t like driving your car on the street it’s really not a street car. If you do, it is. That surely means different things to different people. Like if I can’t hop in my car and drive it to work without worrying about if I’ll make it there, or if it’ll overheat in traffic or something then it makes it less “street” to me. I think there’s nothing wrong about having a cage, chute mount, tubs, etc and doesn’t really make something not a street car.
 
#33 ·
When adding a fart of nitrous means you have to take your track legal roll bar and make or pay for it to be a cage… you might be becoming a street/strip car. If pump gas involves large percentages of ethonal… it might be a street/strip car. If your young kids hate it because it’s too loud? It’s most certainly your balls and no longer a street/ strip car.