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I do not trust my engine builder / good friend

1.2K views 22 replies 20 participants last post by  sukkoi18  
#1 · (Edited)
Ok, here's my rant.................

One of my friends puts together cars on the side. He is fairly slow as he works only when free time allows. I have seen more than one engine come back due to a failure. My thought process has been to have him work on my stuff becuase #1 labor will be cheap and #2 I can help/learn in the process. He just finished another motor for someone else and it took 2-3 months to assemble this in dirty enviroment.

Now, I'm faced with the dilema as I'm nearing the end to my car. All the parts/pieces are here and ordered but nothing is assembled yet. I'm wanting to take my block and misc. parts to a performance shop and I will pay them for putting this together for me just so I know it's done right.

The very last thing I want is for my friend to "forget" something and I have the car a few hours then KABOOM. My 2year project with ALOT of money sunken into it goes down the drain.

What would you do?
I'm not quite sure of all the items I would need to bring to a shop and have them assemble my stuff. So I dont want to seem like a tard when the shop calls me and says hey were missing this part. Bring it down by or whatever.

/rant off
 
#2 ·
Isnt it obvious? Protect your investment.
 
#4 · (Edited)
I think you already know the answer. How much do you save, going to a cheap school where you know the teachers will teach you the wrong way of doing things?

Go to a shop or two or three, tell them your plans, tell them what you have on the way, have them tell you what to get/do from there.
 
#6 ·
Why ask, according to your description, I wouldnt waist my time... or money/and or parts... I also do all of my own work, as I have had to many issues letting other people work on my projects.


Find a reputable shop, a speed shop, not a tractor machanic and get r done...


2wld4u
 
#7 ·
Have it professionally assembled by a local machine shop.
Talk to two or three shops and see what they say. You have too much in that 347 to have it go 'boom".
 
#9 ·
yeah, everyone is right. Thats they way I was thinking too.

I know he will be disapointed that he wont be doing the work because he was looking forward to my project. On the othe hand I might be saving a friendship by going someplace else.

I can just picture it now, something would have went wrong. He would have to way to "warranty" anything for me. I would be out $$$ and it would prolly break our friendship.
 
#10 ·
tell him that you took it to a shop cause you wanted it bult ASAP since it took you a while to get the parts pieced together and you cant wait a couple months
then maybe he wont feel bad
 
#11 ·
u answered your own question in your first post. if u have doubt in an engine builder then thats not the one for u. why waste time, effort, and stressing over this. u waited 2 years already whats another 2-3 months of saving to get it done right..................

a dirty shop = dirty work...... not always but a lot of times. my friend is an engine builder and does a lotta other stuff. he is doing body work right now for his 68 gt350. he told me straight out......id love to build your new motor but because of all the dust in my shop from the body work i cant. i would have to clean it all so that i dont get any thing in the bearings and such.....

this comes from a guy that has worked for delta as an engineer for 20 years and also a cnc machinists. this guy is one of the smartest ive seen. i trust his opinion and honesty.
 
#14 ·
You understand this board is a public forum right? Even if this guy doesn't use the Internet, some of his friends might, word gets back to him and you have a bigger problem on your hands than the one you had before. Grow a spine, do what you know is right. Support from your "internet friends" isn't what you need here.

P51C
 
#15 ·
Just because a "so-called" professional machine shop has a business liscense, doesnt mean they do quality work either, I built my motor in my garage, it was clean but nothing spectacular, it runs great and doesnt leak or burn oil, a freind of mine took his engine too a reputable engine builder, and its been back 3 or 4 times, sometimes its the luck of the draw.

However you should do what you feel comfortable with, if you dont have faith in someone, then you should move on to someone else. Before you pick a machine shop to build it, get references from them, talk to others that had their motors built.

Rich
 
#16 ·
Hey, don't worry about what the shop thinks about you. You're a valued customer so they aren't going to be dwelling on whether you bring all the bearings or gaskets the first trip to the shop. In fact, expect several trips to the shop to iron out details and check on progress.
 
#17 ·
MFE said:
I think you already know the answer.
Yeah, I don't see where the decision is to be made.

As a general rule, never pay your friends to do something for you. As your friend you think you're entitled to higher quality work and they think they can let some small stuff slide.

It's a recipe for disaster.

If there's even a 1% chance you're going to lose all the money you've spent so far then take it to a place with which you have some recourse for poor quality of workmanship.

If it blows and it's their fault then they have to eat it.

Good luck man.
 
#20 ·
Jay Allen said:
Take it elsewhere or there will be another person on here saying a 331 is better than a 347.

its not the size of it................... its the motion of the ocean :evilgrin:






or in this case the stroke of it :lol: