I want to begin gathering parts to build my engine to be capable of 400-500 rwhp. Can someone who has built one of these engines and already went through the hell of finding parts please pass on the information. I've called ford looking for heads. Their reply is somewhat strange, we show we list 04 cobra heads but "out of stock". Ford REP. said to check back in a month. List price is $2,000+ per side he said when they do have them. What all 04-05 models had the "DB" "DC" cast heads so I can check junkyards? Ill get some used ones and save some money. I want it strong and I don't want to skimp anywhere that I shouldn't. Ive found manley connecting rods its not hard to find those and manley pistons. Im having trouble finding heads that are the 9 thread and revised cooling passages. Can I get 400+ out of just porting my own heads and supercharged or turbo the stockers with upgraded springs, etc. inside?
I would like someone to possibly list out all the required parts and prices and where they got them so I can begin ordering this stuff. My brother in law and I plan on putting this on a stand this summer and building it. I would prefer not to use force induction but If I have to I will and feel free to list that as well if its going to be a cheaper route. I have no problem with doing head work, boring up to .020 on the block. The installation process and installing heads/gaskets I can do myself. Im just going to pay for the shortblock/machining/ and rotating assembly but I dont even know where to look for a good builder for that.
I live in a small town in ohio 45714 zip code, but nobody near here does that I looked. There is one builder in this area who could probably do it, but hes so overbooked, and kind of a weiner I dont want to go with him. What I have to start with is a 96 "still running" cobra engine. My brother in law will do as much work as we can, and I will also have to outsource some. Im still learning but will do as much as possible to save on labor cost. Feel free to give me a run down on parts would be greatly appreciated If I just had a list I could begin buying them up and get started working.
Although I don't agree with them I do understand why around the mustang circle I hear "too bad its not the 5.0". Its not because this block isn't capable of making a lot of power. Its just not nearly as accessible to parts availability as the pushrods are. In my case I look at it like well my stock block can do 800hp, and a stock ford iron block in the 90s 5.0s can break at 500hp so the actual numbers speak for themselves. There just need to be an aftermarket supplier step up there game. Trickflow, Edelbrock, and AFR should all be all over this head design and yet, I see no aftermarket heads anywhere. Whoever has the start-up money could have one hell of a business and have it cornered.
I found this link 450 HP 4.6 DOHC but there is no way I would pay $14,000 for an engine with no warranty. I don't care how much power it made. That is simply insane when you look at the parts that is inside. Its like 5x-6x the parts cost in that engine. I mean I can understand 2x-2.5x the money for labor of building but that much? Come on. $14,000 in an engine better be capable of turbo/nitrous and getting close to 1000rwhp..lol damn. Better yet throw in free installation/tune/ and a 2-yr 24,000 mile warranty then I would consider it.
I would like someone to possibly list out all the required parts and prices and where they got them so I can begin ordering this stuff. My brother in law and I plan on putting this on a stand this summer and building it. I would prefer not to use force induction but If I have to I will and feel free to list that as well if its going to be a cheaper route. I have no problem with doing head work, boring up to .020 on the block. The installation process and installing heads/gaskets I can do myself. Im just going to pay for the shortblock/machining/ and rotating assembly but I dont even know where to look for a good builder for that.
I live in a small town in ohio 45714 zip code, but nobody near here does that I looked. There is one builder in this area who could probably do it, but hes so overbooked, and kind of a weiner I dont want to go with him. What I have to start with is a 96 "still running" cobra engine. My brother in law will do as much work as we can, and I will also have to outsource some. Im still learning but will do as much as possible to save on labor cost. Feel free to give me a run down on parts would be greatly appreciated If I just had a list I could begin buying them up and get started working.
Although I don't agree with them I do understand why around the mustang circle I hear "too bad its not the 5.0". Its not because this block isn't capable of making a lot of power. Its just not nearly as accessible to parts availability as the pushrods are. In my case I look at it like well my stock block can do 800hp, and a stock ford iron block in the 90s 5.0s can break at 500hp so the actual numbers speak for themselves. There just need to be an aftermarket supplier step up there game. Trickflow, Edelbrock, and AFR should all be all over this head design and yet, I see no aftermarket heads anywhere. Whoever has the start-up money could have one hell of a business and have it cornered.
I found this link 450 HP 4.6 DOHC but there is no way I would pay $14,000 for an engine with no warranty. I don't care how much power it made. That is simply insane when you look at the parts that is inside. Its like 5x-6x the parts cost in that engine. I mean I can understand 2x-2.5x the money for labor of building but that much? Come on. $14,000 in an engine better be capable of turbo/nitrous and getting close to 1000rwhp..lol damn. Better yet throw in free installation/tune/ and a 2-yr 24,000 mile warranty then I would consider it.