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porsches4lunch

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I am thinking about purchasing a Novi 2000 after talking to a few folks that sell them and work on them. From what i have been told they are better that Vortech T trim and make more power AND COST LESS:eek: Tell me if you are happy with yours and if not what you don't like. Combo will be a 302 with Windsor SR heads, TFS Stage I cam, Weiand intake, blow thru carb. :salute:
 
I've never heard anything negative about the novi 2k. I absolutely love mine. A pulley swap and a/w intercooler are coming next!
 
I really like mine.
 
Truck guy here.
I replaced my Powerdyne with the Novi 2000. Now instead of trying to squeeze more boost out of a blower, I'm backing it off. I've got 11 psi at less than 75% of the max 55,000 rpms.
 
I've heard a few besides my own. They seem to all have a wurring sound while idling, at 2200 rpms there is a metalic resonance and after that its pretty silent. You can hear it down shifting etc, but if you are into the boost you really can't hear it.

Great blower for peak power. The only problem I've found is that with stock pullies, the blower makes plenty of boost but it really pours on late in the band. If your wanted a broader powerband overall, I think it would really respond well to a smaller pulley moving the impeller speed closer to its optimum range. Of course then you would have to deal with ALOT of peak boost. You could also do what I did which is setup your motor for more low-end and the blower will take care of the peak.

My setup was a 300rwhp setup N/A, so when I added the Novi with stock pullies I didn't expect to see more than 8-9psi. Instead I got 12psi at 6k. Talk about power, the late power isn't all bad though. It gets you out of the gate without boiling the hides, then when your moving it comes on in a big way. Most races I win between 5-6k because it seems I'm packing a little more power up there than other blower cars.

Quality is excelent, brackets are some of the best around and it has virtually limitless potential, whats not to love about the Novi? Again if you want a huge hit on the low end you might want to try a KB or even an S-trim which comes on a little faster then the Novi but then signs off early. For me I'm very happy with the decision I made.

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I am very happy with my Novi. As Fastgreen said, power does come on late, but it comes in very hard around 5-6k. Which sucks for me becuase I run out of injector at around 5700, so i'm just starting to get into boost and have to shift at 5500. My friend has pretty much the exact same setup as me, but he is running an S-trim. He hits really hard compared to the 2k, but once i start really building boost, its over.
 
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Has anyone ever tried running pullies for higher boost and using a Bypass/wastegate like the tuebos do?? With turbos the boost is controlled by venting the exhaust at a given PIS level via the wastegate. I wonder if you setup the NOVI with say 20LBS pullies and vent at 10PSI, you would be building boost MUCH sooner and still only see 10PSI. Am i totally nust or what??
 
porsches4lunch said:
Has anyone ever tried running pullies for higher boost and using a Bypass/wastegate like the tuebos do?? With turbos the boost is controlled by venting the exhaust at a given PIS level via the wastegate. I wonder if you setup the NOVI with say 20LBS pullies and vent at 10PSI, you would be building boost MUCH sooner and still only see 10PSI. Am i totally nust or what??
I've thought about this too, it would be an awesome idea. I think there have been several threads talking about this idea.
 
porsches4lunch said:
Has anyone ever tried running pullies for higher boost and using a Bypass/wastegate like the tuebos do?? With turbos the boost is controlled by venting the exhaust at a given PIS level via the wastegate. I wonder if you setup the NOVI with say 20LBS pullies and vent at 10PSI, you would be building boost MUCH sooner and still only see 10PSI. Am i totally nust or what??
This idea has been talked about numerous times, but I have never heard of anyone trying it. Bouncing the idea off a few tuners they told me it would be difficult to dial in, I don't know if thats true.

One time I was reading a Muscle Mustang, and a similar question was posed to Richard Holdener. He said a better idea would be to pulley the blower up so peak was say around 20psi. Then use a reducer in the inlet trac of the blower to reduce the peak boost to say 15psi. You would have to try different reducer diameters to find out which worked best. But the net result was that big boost would come on fast and then flatten out.
 
fastgreen94 said:
This idea has been talked about numerous times, but I have never heard of anyone trying it. Bouncing the idea off a few tuners they told me it would be difficult to dial in, I don't know if thats true.

One time I was reading a Muscle Mustang, and a similar question was posed to Richard Holdener. He said a better idea would be to pulley the blower up so peak was say around 20psi. Then use a reducer in the inlet trac of the blower to reduce the peak boost to say 15psi. You would have to try different reducer diameters to find out which worked best. But the net result was that big boost would come on fast and then flatten out.

I dont see why it would be difficult to "dial in" the tune. No different than a turbo IMO. It would be easy for me to try that setup becuase of the map sensor and EMS i have. Now if i only had the money for a wastegate and more time on my hands i could experiment with this.
 
porsches4lunch said:
Has anyone ever tried running pullies for higher boost and using a Bypass/wastegate like the tuebos do?? With turbos the boost is controlled by venting the exhaust at a given PIS level via the wastegate. I wonder if you setup the NOVI with say 20LBS pullies and vent at 10PSI, you would be building boost MUCH sooner and still only see 10PSI. Am i totally nust or what??
That is a clever idea. But how do you know where, or at what psi the blower is most efficient?
Like most people I am just operating with the trial and error method. I have not seen a thermal map for the N2K anywhere. Anybody else?
 
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ONELOWF said:
That is a clever idea. But how do you know where, or at what psi the blower is most efficient?
Like most people I am just operating with the trial and error method. I have not seen a thermal map for the N2K anywhere. Anybody else?
That's a good point, with turbos you get a compressor map but have never seen one for a Supercharger. I would say that at 12-15PSI though an S Trim is at it peak efficency range. With a NOVi2000 most folks say that it really pulls in the high RPM range. I would have to guess and say that optimum PSI for a NOVI2000 is in the 18-20PSI range. You would also have to be carefull not to OVER pulley the blower and destroy the impeller since they are MUCH weaker than a turbo.
 
i think this is one of the best all around blowers on the market . it goes from a mild combo to a wild combo in a matter of a pulley change its not like vortech or procharger after so many pounds you have to swap head units. it can handle 12 sec. power to low 9 sec power maybe even better i know a shop that ran low nines i think maybe even 9.0s with it. i made 550 rwhp on a mild 306 combo with 15#s of boost with belt slipping from bad water pump letting go on dyno.i give it an A+ .i just wish it was a louder blower thats all maybe with more boost it would have been good luck
 
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