[kjb302ho]

Ohhh that sounds way freggin easier something I can see thanks a lot for that

that will get you very close. just make sure it on the compression stroke.

 

[Prone to Violence]

So got an update. I am getting good spark it's trying to start but my guess is now I have bad gas in car. I put E85 in it about 5 months ago and it's sat since then. Would bad gas make it pop like it wants to start?

 

[onefastguy]

dumb question (b/c this ended up being my issue) - did you double check the MAF transfer function data (to make sure it was 100% correct) as well as confirm injector data?

 

[Prone to Violence]

I did not. Thank for that I will double check my parameters. The car did start for about 2 seconds. I think the gas was bad and it was dirty.

 

[Prone to Violence]

Another update: I drained tank put new fuel in still does not do anything. I noticed that it pops after you are finished cranking the engine over. I put a light on coil and while I am cranking the engine the light never comes only until the engine stops turning over it will light up. i thought they would fire as the engine is turning.

Also here is a screen shot MAF transfer function. I have never gotten into this parameter.

Does this look correct?

 

[2001sleeper]

Did you say that you are running coil on plug?

 

[Prone to Violence]

Yes, coil on plug

 

[kjb302ho]

the engine has to make 2 complete revolutions to generate the spark. crank longer.

Did you enter the transfer function or did pro m?"

 

[Prone to Violence]

Pro M did. This is what it sounds like. Of course the fuel pump just for video.

And yes the coils are firing correct you where right.

 

[kjb302ho]

turn the throttle stop screw in a turn or two. make a manual push button starter connect it to the starter post and positive terminal. loosen the dizzy a little and rotate slightly while starting the car. when its idling lock it down and then fine tune it following the instructions.

your timing is off and your throttle blade is closed too much.

 

[Prone to Violence]

I am using the push button start. I am moving the dizzy while trying to start it at a sweet spot where it try’s to start. I will try the throttle stop screw. Is it possible my injectors could be bad from the fuel?

 

[kjb302ho]

try the stop screw first, which you probably have done by now.

Are you using a pro m crank trigger?

 

[2001sleeper]

On that MAF transfer pic, does the COP box need to be checked?

 

[Prone to Violence]

I do not have the crank trigger.

 

[kjb302ho]

I do not have the crank trigger.

then reset the dizzy and make sure the pick up is aligned one more time to verify. crack the throttle blade a turn or two. if it doesn't fire off, pull the injectors and send them to be cleaned, replace the fuel filter element with the correct one and drop the tank and change the sock or fuel pump assembly. e85 doesn't have a great shelf life in a fuel tank.

Will be doing my friends fuel system soon. e85 has been in the car not running for 3 years. not even going to bother trying to clean

 

[Prone to Violence]

I have already dropped the tank cleaned and coated with red coat. Clean the filter which is an aeromotive 100 micron filter and eliminator pump. I blew everything out and clean per Aeromotive instructions. Unless when I am setting the small tooth in the wrong spot I know it’s right dead on zero. The Hall effect is the small black part inside distributor correct? Btw I really appreciate the help guys first time with this system.

 

[kjb302ho]

well if you did all that, pull the injectors and have them checked out. get in contact with derr fuel injectors

 

[stangjumper]

well if you did all that, pull the injectors and have them checked out. get in contact with derr fuel injectors

To me it sounds like lack of fuel.

If the injectors have been sitting, they might be stuck because of the e85. I had it happen to me 2 years ago, first time for me.

You can disconnect the ignition, take the upper intake off and take a look down the runners when cranking to see if the injectors are spraying. I had 6 stuck from sitting 6 months. You might be able to remove them and free them up your self if it had only been 3 months. Worth a try before you send them out.

 

[Prone to Violence]

That’s my next step I bought a injector test and cleaning kit off Amazon gonna try it out this weekend. My question is on my MSD dist. Is the Hall effect what you see in pic? ( not my set up got off Google)

 

[2001sleeper]

The Hall effect is a C shaped channel that the teeth of the the distributor shutter wheel ride through. That white part is one side of it.