[Fast4Eye]

I took a look at my current harmonic balancer and its looking pretty rough, definitley think it would be a safe idea to get a new one since I don't want to grenade my engine the first time I take it out.

What are everyone's suggestions for a good VALUE balancer. I don't want the cheapest or most expensive. Say under $300 what is the best value balancer I can get without risking my engine or bank account lol

Thanks

 

[strokeme]

Pioneer/Powerbond. But you leave no derails and there are half a dozen different specifics, regardless of brand. Internal, 28oz, 50oz, 3 inch, 4 inch, 3 bolt pulley, 4 bolt pulley.

 

[Saleen 88-656]

I just got a power bond. I haven’t installed it but it looks like a nice piece.

 

[Ed Curtis]

More false economy....

 

[GlennSullivan]

More false economy....

Ed, Ive never met you, but you are funny and correct as hell. Every single time in my life Ive tried to save $10 it has cost me $50 to fix the problem I created.

OP, If you want to buy a new balancer, for a supercharged car, buy an Innovators West AND hopefully you have a double keyed crank AND make sure to attach the pulleys to the balancer with 8 ARP bolts not the 4 the pulleys are pre-drilled for.

 

[Fast4Eye]

I'm sorry if there was anything wrong with my post, should have clarified its a completely stock 86 so 50oz and 4 bolt. That's as much as I know.

I have no idea what size balancer to get, brand, bolts. Nothing. I don't even know what a blower hub is after numerous searches so if you guys could enlighten me that would be much appreciated.

I just want the most cost effective and best performing, whatever you guys suggest.

Thanks

 

[strokeme]

I'm sorry if there was anything wrong with my post, should have clarified its a completely stock 86 so 50oz and 4 bolt. That's as much as I know.

I have no idea what size balancer to get, brand, bolts. Nothing. I don't even know what a blower hub is after numerous searches so if you guys could enlighten me that would be much appreciated.

I just want the most cost effective and best performing, whatever you guys suggest.

Thanks

This is all you need

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/pbb-pb1084ss

 

[Fast4Eye]

Thank you, I'm intrigued by this innovators west. Are they really that good?

Also what is the significance behind the different crank keyways and like bolt patterns? What's a blow hub for, different offset?

 

[strokeme]

Thank you, I'm intrigued by this innovators west. Are they really that good?

Also what is the significance behind the different crank keyways and like bolt patterns? What's a blow hub for, different offset?

Are they good, yes. Will you notice any difference except a lighter wallet? No.

Blower hub on the innovators is a thicker hub which requires a different timing cover seal, which is included, but you need to remove the hub seal on your timing cover and replace it with the included seal. Which is a lip less seal and unless the timingcover is already off, installing that seal is tough to get it straight.

Put the powerbond on and continue to enjoy your ride.

 

[Ed Curtis]

Your money, your choice...

Romac SB Ford Balancer - Blower Series

Custom Camshafts, Valvetrain, Valve Springs, Push Rods, Timing Sets

www.flowtechinduction.com

 

[Fast4Eye]

So if I'm reading this correctly, for a ~350hp vortech 5.0 I can run a powerbond and have increase over stock without sacrificing performance or my engine. All for a lower price?

 

[Nitrous SSC]

I have an IW with the bigger hub. I never have to look at it again. I’ll be dead and it’ll still be balancing. Seal wasn’t too hard I just used a socket and went in till it was flush. Just tap tap tap.

 

[96pushrod]

This is all you need

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/pbb-pb1084ss

Put that exact same balancer on a friend’s v2 fox body a couple days ago. Fits really well.

 

[strokeme]

Nothing is going to increase or decrease from the performance side, only your wallet. You are reading WAY TOO DEEP into this, but that is 99% of people in this hobby.

 

[Fast4Eye]

You are reading WAY TOO DEEP into this, but that is 99% of people in this hobby.

lol, I'm only reading deep in fear of buying something mediocre and costing myself more in the long run.

I feel that the performance will increase from stock since it's obviously not in its best condition. But I understand it's not going to be a night and day difference and extremely noticeable.

And yes I agree that things snowball very quickly talking to some people, somehow I'll go from wanting heads and a cam to some dude telling me that I need like 52 other things first, which makes forums challenging to sift through.

 

[strokeme]

lol, I'm only reading deep in fear of buying something mediocre and costing myself more in the long run.

I feel that the performance will increase from stock since it's obviously not in its best condition. But I understand it's not going to be a night and day difference and extremely noticeable.

And yes I agree that things snowball very quickly talking to some people, somehow I'll go from wanting heads and a cam to some dude telling me that I need like 52 other things first, which makes forums challenging to sift through.

Well then worry about breaking the snout of that stock crank and yanking out the number 1 main cap with that blower. You will not notice a single difference unless your current balancer has the outer ring slipped and its wobbling causing a vibration. Buy what you will

 

[Mark O'Neal]

Thank you, I'm intrigued by this innovators west. Are they really that good?

Also what is the significance behind the different crank keyways and like bolt patterns? What's a blow hub for, different offset?

Yes, they are.

The Romac (for instance) blower balancers have a thicker hub, and come with a larger seal. they are also set up with double keyways, becasue shearing one is not unheard of.

 

[Fast4Eye]

I think for my power level right now, I don't need a fancy double key way balancer with all the extra holes.

I'm not discrediting what you guys are saying, but financially it doesn't make sense to spend that much on a balancer that I won't see a noticeable increase in.

Just ordered that power bond linked above with a new arp bolt. Thanks everyone for the info.

 

[Mark O'Neal]

lol, I'm only reading deep in fear of buying something mediocre and costing myself more in the long run.

I feel that the performance will increase from stock since it's obviously not in its best condition. But I understand it's not going to be a night and day difference and extremely noticeable.

And yes I agree that things snowball very quickly talking to some people, somehow I'll go from wanting heads and a cam to some dude telling me that I need like 52 other things first, which makes forums challenging to sift through.

Adding a bunch of side load to a cast crank snout is not on my list of acceptable gambles. If I had a customer insist on it, he'd be someone else's customer.

So you don't want to put a mediocre balancer on a mediocre bottom end. I believe that all parts in combination should match. So ... if you're running a stock bottom end with a blower, mediocre balance is a perfect fit. ...

 

[Fast4Eye]

Adding a bunch of side load to a cast crank snout is not on my list of acceptable gambles. If I had a customer insist on it, he'd be someone else's customer.

So you don't want to put a mediocre balancer on a mediocre bottom end. I believe that all parts in combination should match. So ... if you're running a stock bottom end with a blower, mediocre balance is a perfect fit. ...

I'm sorry, it's really difficult to read people's demeanour over a forum post, I know that the stock bottom ends are mediocre. Also what is side load, would that be the supercharger pulley in front of the serpentine drive?

All I meant was that I didn't want to put a $40 aliexpress balancer on and then the whole engine blows up, I should have worded my initial statement properly. I think the powerband looks like the perfect match for my setup and is maybe half or a third the price of a IW. Yes they look great and probably perform better but I'm also not retired with a pension of sorts or have 10k+ to spend on this "build" I've got going on, so I'll have to make it work. I have maybe 20 hours a week after school I have to make funds stretch lol