Isn’t even worth the time. It’s not that.Well it sounds like I need to pulls the plugs and get the antiseize cleaned off. I'll get that taken care of. I highly doubt that it will cure my bucking or inconsistantly colored plugs, but its worth a shot. And I agree that I used way too much antiseize this last go-round. I wasn't aware that it could harm anything.
Hi kjb302ho,Mike, I think you just might have found his issue. Spark plug grounding is often overlooked.
I know. but its a small detail thats overlooked a lot. maybe one of small multiple issues he is dealing with.Hi kjb302ho,
The information I posted was "NOT" a solution to the OP's concern; it's to point out that anti-seize is unnecessary on his spark plug threads.......that is all. I hope that clears up any confusion.
Like YOU stated, YOU don't tune. You keep giving advice that the ProM doesn't need tuning. How do you know? You have no idea. All that you know is that your ECU hit the TARGET A/F. That's it.I agree with that statement. All aftermarket ecms fall into that. But since I dont tune, the pro m fits my needs and since I just swapped over from an si to a ti, I didnt touch the tune.
optimization is a matter of opinion. There are people tuning brand new mustangs right out of the dealership. Fuel/spark table perfect for all combinations? How do I know? I don't. 20+ sbf engine combinations with the pro m says they are pretty close. Were they optimal? Im not sure, but the drivability was very good, acceleration, slowing down coming to a stop very good. Lambda was safe. Starting up shutting off was very good. In my eyes, it was optimal. In your eyes, being a much more experienced tuner, you more than likely would see areas that you feel could be improved.
I wish there were more tuners who ****ed with the pro m. But for a hobbyist who has zero time and zero access to a dyno, its a very good system.
The anti seize can foul the 02 sensor if to much is used. Mercury Racing (boat engines) had a bulletin out that states not to use anti-seize. It was causing all sorts of problems on their engines. They sell engines up to 1750hp currently.Well it sounds like I need to pulls the plugs and get the antiseize cleaned off. I'll get that taken care of. I highly doubt that it will cure my bucking or inconsistantly colored plugs, but its worth a shot. And I agree that I used way too much antiseize this last go-round. I wasn't aware that it could harm anything.
no i dont tune, but I can read and follow directions, to the letter. Im not the company spokesperson, and i have never received anything from pro m. but Im pretty satisfied with doing 750 flywheel in my driveway just by doing that.Like YOU stated, YOU don't tune. You keep giving advice that the ProM doesn't need tuning. How do you know? You have no idea. All that you know is that your ECU hit the TARGET A/F. That's it.
Optimization is not an opinion LOL. Yes people are tuning brand new cars. That is because the factory has to tune for; emissions, fuel quality, longevity, warranty.
I'm not sayin the ProM is a bad system. Just stop being a company spokesman in every thread saying it doesn't need to be tuned. You never need a laptop hooked up to it, bla, bla, bla. I wonder how many fellow enthusiasts bought the system and think they can take it out of the box and just go from reading all the posts on this site. I know Michael and respect what he has done with it. BUT he has hooked a laptop up to his and tuned it. If you are happy with your results, I'm happy for you.
There are plenty of guys that could tune it, if they are worth anything. Most don't want to be bothered with it, because it doesn't have a big following, not because it doesn't need to be tuned. Heck my friend (on LI) has tuned the ProM. He has probably tuned most systems out there. He has traveled around the country tuning cars. I'm not sure if he would tune another one. I know he wasn't crazy about it. I could always ask if he would be interested, no guarantee. He uses a dyno in Suffolk all the time.
You can't always go by dyno numbers, but your 408 sounds like it is missing some hp at 15psi. I would almost bet with tuning some tables, you could find some more HP. Without seeing your tables, I think I know where I would start looking.