[Last Mark]

NOXer. You didn't tell them your user ID here did you?

 

[NJSPEEDER]

If they wanted to prove their was nitrous in the car they could just test the oil.

Look up the owners bill of rights and contact an attorney right away. They aren't allowed to just say you did something that voids he warranty, they are legaly obligated to prove it.

-Tim

 

[whiteboy281]

You can get a complete engine from Ford Racing for a few hundred more.

$6,700 for a complete 2011 motor from Frpp

 

[Chrm97PI]

Ask them then how can they warranty a Dealer installed Roush SC if they engine isn't rated for boost?
2nd, I'd like to see the plug from that cylinder and match it to the rest of the plugs. Nitrous would have melted the plug long before blowing rings out. I'd have to say manufacture flaw.

Apparently these guys have the "Fast and Furious" theory of Nitrous. It would be different if you had 2-3 cylinders with bad compression.

They have to PROVE that nitrous was used.

Keep us posted.

because its not fords factory warrenty, Roush/saleen etc... actually will cover the engine for 3/36 not ford as long as its installed by a ford tech, frpp is the same way

 

[1trkpny95]

Did you buy this from Winner Ford, Willis, or somewhere else?

 

[Atrim90GT]

Do not let up. Make them replace the engine, or in your situation, what ever that needs to be fixed, don't get hustled by them

 

[Cobra427]

I think there is more to the story....

O/R x-pipe requires a tune. What other mods are/were on the car before the issue?

Only thing that will cause the failure you had was detonation.

7300 RPM is still safe for the motor N/A.

Tell the rest of the story...

I'm with this guy. Although I can attest to the third to second issue but not on Mustags. Vipers are notorious for this. If you modded the car in any way other than a Ford approved upgrade I doubt you will have any real ground to stand on. The off road X tells me there is more to this story and the dealership and Ford are well within their right to stand their ground. That said it seems as though you have had nothing but problems with this car and this can not go unnoticed.

 

[Ehardy1971]

Ok, so does the off road X-pipe void the engine warranty, or just the exhaust system warranty? I'm saying exhaust. Just because one part was modded doesn't mean the ENTIRE warranty is voided. That's like them trying to say they can't honor the warranty on the rear end because you put a CAI on it. I know about the tunes and all, but I don't see it messing up JUST one cylinder. Especially on an altogether new engine. Remember the NPI 4.6's? What about the Cobra's that were recalled because they didn't have the HP Ford advertised? I'm loyal to the blue oval, but Ford ain't perfect either.

 

[RazorbackMustang]

Ok, so does the off road X-pipe void the engine warranty, or just the exhaust system warranty? I'm saying exhaust. Just because one part was modded doesn't mean the ENTIRE warranty is voided. That's like them trying to say they can't honor the warranty on the rear end because you put a CAI on it. I know about the tunes and all, but I don't see it messing up JUST one cylinder. Especially on an altogether new engine. Remember the NPI 4.6's? What about the Cobra's that were recalled because they didn't have the HP Ford advertised? I'm loyal to the blue oval, but Ford ain't perfect either.

No, you're correct. It can't void the entire warranty. But, since the O/R X requires a recalibration of the PCM, that CAN void the engine warranty. They have no idea what was done to the engine mapping. With these engines, there's a lot of potential, but there's also a lot of potential for ####ing it up.

 

[HIVOLTJ]

I smell :bs: ! If I was in your shoes and had done nothing wrong, I'd be foaming at the mouth. C'mon bud, man up and tell the corral what you did. If you were spraying, the spark plugs and the piston crowns would tell the tale!

 

[clean93]

idk like already mentioned may need to lawyer up. hell call a news station too

 

[Ehardy1971]

No, you're correct. It can't void the entire warranty. But, since the O/R X requires a recalibration of the PCM, that CAN void the engine warranty. They have no idea what was done to the engine mapping. With these engines, there's a lot of potential, but there's also a lot of potential for ####ing it up.

Ok, gotcha'! I'm still reading up on these engines.

 

[5.0calypso93lx]

I guess I'll be the first to say, I'm guessing OP was beating on the car, missed a shift and put it into 2nd instead of 4th and overrevved it.

 

[1trkpny95]

If he took it to a tuner here in DE(most notably Performance Evolution in Middletown) he isn't going to do anything to mess the car up. Matt at PE does all the tuning on mine and is a straight up guy. If he took it way up the road to ACA I can see there being a problem. *Waiting for the OP to chime back in*

 

[foosh]

Ask them then how can they warranty a Dealer installed Roush SC if they engine isn't rated for boost?
2nd, I'd like to see the plug from that cylinder and match it to the rest of the plugs. Nitrous would have melted the plug long before blowing rings out. I'd have to say manufacture flaw.

Apparently these guys have the "Fast and Furious" theory of Nitrous. It would be different if you had 2-3 cylinders with bad compression.

They have to PROVE that nitrous was used.

Keep us posted.

Because it's no longer a Ford warranty, it's a Roush warranty.

 

[x88notchx]

For them to stone wall you like this I am thinking there is more to this story.

 

[ndmus88gteng]

I guess I'll be the first to say, I'm guessing OP was beating on the car, missed a shift and put it into 2nd instead of 4th and overrevved it.

VERY regretably, op said he did it 2 X, that has got to be terrible, on the revs, and the internals. Good luck with it. they should fix it, if you did not run nos in it.

 

[thadude]

My old man did the same thing on his Passat 2.0T, down shifted into 2nd meant to find 4th. VW wouldn't replace the engine either, they ended up splitting the cost with him after he called VW multiple times.

 

[Michael Yount]

Check your warranty (hardly anyone actually reads it). It sounds like you mechanically over-revved the motor with an errant downshift. Unless you can pin it on the shifter/clutch mechanism being faulty - this sounds like operator error to me, not an issue that the manufacturer should warranty.

I actually did this exact thing in a 1970 Audi 100LS I used to own. Upset and in a rather heated discussion with my missus, I tore through 1st, 2nd and 3rd. When I went to shift to 4th I somehow hit second. Lucky for me -- the clutch disc was weak link -- it literally shredded it -- meaning the tires didn't lock up and the engine didn't over-rev. A cheaper fix -- but as a student paying my own way (married, child) $300 for a clutch fix in 1976 might as well have been $30,000......I couldn't afford it. But somehow did....

 

[TimMcc]

Really would be good to know what happened so us guys that are thinking about modding our cars know what not to do.