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I've been a anderson ford motorsport PMS user for almost 4 years now. I have loved it, and never had any problems with it, but I'm ready for a change. Maybe just looking to learn something new. from what i've been reading this AEM EMS is supposed to be all that. I'm considering any stand alone that people would recommend. I'm not trying to find something extrememly difficult to use either. I was wondering what people had to say about their experience with this as opposed to another tuning device. What are the Pro's and cons.. how long to hook up, how long to get the car running, driving, and how hard it it actually to just dial in a rough tune? I'm driving a 93 cobra, but i have an A9L computer in it, so i'd assume ijust want the regular version of the EMS? I'm no tuner, but i have tuned myself on my PMS all this time, so i figure i should be fine adapting to the EMS with some tech help from you guys. Thanks in advance for your response.

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no horror stories!! i need postive motivation lol... not fear..
there is no horror story... he just stated that after i sent him his base calibration, he was able to drive 300 miles THROUGH the mountains to the only AEM tuner in canada... when i set him up, i didnt know he was going to do that... If i had known, i probably would have passed on it for obvious reasons LOL.
i read that as he couldn't figure out how to tune the car... i didn't realize he just wanted to get it started to drive to a tuner. since i have you in my thread now though, i would like to ask your opinion on what sensors # i should run? and what's your thoughts about that EPM modual and coil packs? is not doing the epm swap something i'm going to kick myself in the ass for down the road, and something i should look into doing right away, or am i already overwhelmed and just stick to what i got until i get a handle on using the aem first? I'm just trying to figure out how much of an advantage running that EPM would be. I'm looking to get the best overall streetability out of this car.
no reason for EPM... i have cars spinning the motor to over 8500rpm with stock distributor making 1100rwhp with no issues..
no reason for EPM... i have cars spinning the motor to over 8500rpm with stock distributor making 1100rwhp with no issues..
The AEM really is known for being twitchy and having timing error issues
with distributors.

I had hell and finally got so fed up made my own crank and cam triggers from junkyard parts (pre-EPM days)
Talked to one guy in Ny that finally got so fed up with his timing errors he sold it.
AEM forum is full of people having issues.

Yes, most people run distributors and have good success with them, but
lots of people have lots of headaches too. And dont get me wrong, its nothing with
AEM that is wrong, the distributors just cant seem to supply accurate enough signal sometimes.

If you can afford the EPM, I think it is worth every penny in long term
drivability and trouble free operation.

As I said before its something I would do after getting the car running with stock ignition first too.
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The AEM really is known for being twitchy and having timing error issues
with distributors.

I had hell and finally got so fed up made my own crank and cam triggers from junkyard parts
Talked to one guy in Ny that finally got so fed up with his timing errors he sold it.
AEM forum is full of people having issues.

Yes, most people run distributors and have good success with them, but
lots of people have lots of headaches too.

If you can afford the EPM, I think it is worth every penny in long term
drivability and trouble free operation.
there have been a few hardware changes that have netted excellent results.. You are correct, some cars had timing error while others did not.. the new updated boxes ive been selling have had zero issues..
the new updated boxes ive been selling have had zero issues..
Good to know.

Excellent company and product at AEM.
I was floored with how much "free" help they gave me and my tuner
over the phone to get my "one-off" set-up working using OEM Ford sensors.
Thanks a lot for your information guys. I really appreciate it. I suppose I will just see how things go!
ok well i got the AEM today. Now i'm curious how i should start out after i get everything ready to start... do i just use the base MAP 19lb injector calibration, and change all the injector, and sensor settings then tweek from there or how do i go about figuring out where i need to start all my settings at?

302ci
F-cam
Edelbrock Performer RPM heads, 1.6 harland sharp roller rockers
Edelbrock performer rpm2 intake
60# high imp. siemens deka injectors, Fuel pressure set to 43.5.
MSD iginition, 3step.
75mm TB
Factory distributor
black magic EXTREME 5.0 electric fan.
Alcohol Injection Systems dual nozzle methanol injection
HP Performance 60mm turbo kit, 44mm wastegate, running 14psi.
currently running an a9l, with a 3" protube, tuning with my PMS.

I hope i got all the info you need written down here.

here's what the guy says the sensors that are coming with the AEM are:
boost sensor part number 1997152 and connector is 12102747 and map 1006a03 all are bought from gm

AEM EMS 30-1400
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I'd ask for a calibration on the AEM forum. Probably have more luck there.
F-cam 302 with turbo should be easy to get set-up.


And get rid of your MSD box. AEM takes care of better timing and rev limiters and 2steps and more.
how is that???? I will ask on the aem forum for a calibration... i don't understand the msd thing though, could you elaborate?
Great info here, I'll be buying the AEM for my turbo notch when the time comes.
how is that???? I will ask on the aem forum for a calibration... i don't understand the msd thing though, could you elaborate?
MSD boxes are used to improve timing control, rev limiters and 2 steps.
They are a way of improving timing/spark signal on a "stock" computer and give
you the ability to adjust rev limiters and have a 2 step.

Only thing you gain is the multi-spark feature.

All of that is built into the AEM already. MSD box with an AEM is a waste, IMO.
Put her up on the classifieds and stick the money in your pocket.

One less thing in the "system" to fail give you headaches too.

maybe Bob will chime in and tell us what he thinks of an AEM with MSD piggy back
be interested to see what he thinks.
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interesting.. i'd love to hear more opinions on this.
if you are supercharged or turbocharged, an MSD or another IGNITION AMPLIFIER like a mallory or crane is needed!
if you are supercharged or turbocharged, an MSD or another IGNITION AMPLIFIER like a mallory or crane is needed!
I was waiting to see what you'd say about this. The AEM does not do anything to amplify the spark. And I don't remember being told to remove my MSD by you... If anything, I recall you saying the opposite, that I needed the MSD box.
Just no need for a BTM obviously.
Alright... I didn't remember reading anything in the AEMPro Manual mentioning about aem being a timing amplifier... thanks.
can someone explain to me how i am supposeod to wire in the map sensor and the boost sensor??? my map sensor has #1006A03 on it and i can't find that part number anywhere at all online... anyone help me on that?
from what i've been reading it seems like people are wiring the map in at the BAP SENSOR, or EGR sensor wires?
Either BAP or EGR will work... Obviously if you're keeping the EGR you're gonna end up BAP... Either way you'll use they're 3 wire connectors:

5v ref, 5v return and signal wire... Just splice in your map connector to bap/egr then @ the ecu harness, take the bap/egr signal wire, cut it, and splice into the map input pin, which will be on the smaller connector to the aem. Pay attention to the connector orientation in the aem pdf as it's easy to put the wire on the opposite side as it's supposed to. I believe the pinout is looking at the back off the connector, as it would appear plugged in.

The boost solenoid will need a 12v key on source, and then the other wire goes to PW2 pin of the aem.
alrigiht, sounds easy enough... i'll be using the EGR setup since i'll never ever use it again. now how am i to determin what wires on the EGR are those references?
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