[Northside.Gringo]

So I'm doing my first fox build and I was wanting to put a on3 turbo kit on it, but tunes are pretty pricey here so I was going to run a bbk fmu on it. Any recommendations? The setup on the car is trick flow 36# injectors, gt40p heads, b303 cam, 987-16 Comp springs, upper and lower typhoon intake, 70mm throttle body (no egr), with a ford maf sensor. I am running a stock computer and only wanting to run low boost as of right now 5-10#.

 

[TaraFirma]

FMU's are old school, terrible alternatives to getting a tune that feeds the correct amount of fuel. Stay away from them. Just save up for a tune, and/or get a stand alone system. You risk detonating your entire engine. You'll then be buying a tune and an engine.

 

[Northside.Gringo]

FMU's are old school, terrible alternatives to getting a tune that feeds the correct amount of fuel. Stay away from them. Just save up for a tune, and/or get a stand alone system. You risk detonating your entire engine. You'll then be buying a tune and an engine.

Ok thankyou. I'm glad I asked cause I'd be pissed if I had to buy a new engine. What's your opinion on a micro squirt? I would go with a mega squirt but I'm not ready to drop over a grand on a computer

 

[tmoss]

I'd reconsider the cam - if you want a cheap Ford cam, run the 114 lobe center F cam, the B has 110 and you might not like it.

 

[jmardlin]

Even a Stock HO cam with 1.7 rockers would work alot better on a turbo engine than a B303. Too much overlap kills some of the drive pressure needed to spool the turbo.

 

[Laminar]

Microsquirt is good for a motorcycle, but with a turbo V8 in a car you'll outgrow it immediately.

You don't need to spend over a grand to get a real Megasquirt - you can get a plug-and-play setup for $839.

Ford Mustang 8693 MegaSquirt Plug and Play PnP for 86-93 Mustang 5.0

Ford Mustang 8693 MegaSquirt Gen2 Plug and Play for the 1986-1993 Ford Mustang 5.0 and 1986-1988 Ford Thunderbird 5.0, installs in under 1 hour.

www.diyautotune.com

If you're willing to build your own kit you can get the MS3 kit for $445 and the MS3X expansion board for $110 and you'll have full sequential fuel and spark with boost control and all of the goodies for $560.

It's definitely the cheapest way to get a full-function standalone.

 

[jmardlin]

Microsquirt is good for a motorcycle, but with a turbo V8 in a car you'll outgrow it immediately.

You don't need to spend over a grand to get a real Megasquirt - you can get a plug-and-play setup for $839.

Ford Mustang 8693 MegaSquirt Plug and Play PnP for 86-93 Mustang 5.0

Ford Mustang 8693 MegaSquirt Gen2 Plug and Play for the 1986-1993 Ford Mustang 5.0 and 1986-1988 Ford Thunderbird 5.0, installs in under 1 hour.

www.diyautotune.com

If you're willing to build your own kit you can get the MS3 kit for $445 and the MS3X expansion board for $110 and you'll have full sequential fuel and spark with boost control and all of the goodies for $560.

It's definitely the cheapest way to get a full-function standalone.

That computer is batch fire not sequential. I asked them about it when l considered using one on my Capri.

 

[Laminar]

That computer is batch fire not sequential. I asked them about it when l considered using one on my Capri.

The Plug and Play is batch, but the MS3X can be sequential if you have the MS3X card. The MS3 isn't as dead simple and requires some wiring knowledge.

 

[rob]

Microsquirt is good for a motorcycle, but with a turbo V8 in a car you'll outgrow it immediately.

You don't need to spend over a grand to get a real Megasquirt - you can get a plug-and-play setup for $839.

Ford Mustang 8693 MegaSquirt Plug and Play PnP for 86-93 Mustang 5.0

Ford Mustang 8693 MegaSquirt Gen2 Plug and Play for the 1986-1993 Ford Mustang 5.0 and 1986-1988 Ford Thunderbird 5.0, installs in under 1 hour.

www.diyautotune.com

If you're willing to build your own kit you can get the MS3 kit for $445 and the MS3X expansion board for $110 and you'll have full sequential fuel and spark with boost control and all of the goodies for $560.

It's definitely the cheapest way to get a full-function standalone.

We have had very good luck with our ls powered, Chinese turbo‘D combo‘s with micro squirt and have yet to grow out of it. Must be different for ford stuff?

you have out grown micro squirt in one of your cars?

 

[Northside.Gringo]

Microsquirt is good for a motorcycle, but with a turbo V8 in a car you'll outgrow it immediately.

You don't need to spend over a grand to get a real Megasquirt - you can get a plug-and-play setup for $839.

Ford Mustang 8693 MegaSquirt Plug and Play PnP for 86-93 Mustang 5.0

Ford Mustang 8693 MegaSquirt Gen2 Plug and Play for the 1986-1993 Ford Mustang 5.0 and 1986-1988 Ford Thunderbird 5.0, installs in under 1 hour.

www.diyautotune.com

If you're willing to build your own kit you can get the MS3 kit for $445 and the MS3X expansion board for $110 and you'll have full sequential fuel and spark with boost control and all of the goodies for $560.

It's definitely the cheapest way to get a full-function standalone.

I hate to ask you this but could you link me to the kits? Thanks

 

[Northside.Gringo]

That computer is batch fire not sequential. I asked them about it when l considered using one on my Capri.

Sooo no go?

 

[Northside.Gringo]

We have had very good luck with our ls powered, Chinese turbo‘D combo‘s with micro squirt and have yet to grow out of it. Must be different for ford stuff?

you have out grown micro squirt in one of your cars?

Nice man! I have a buddy who runs micro squirt on his nitrous fox and hs loves it

 

[rob]

On 3 kit on a fox iron heads and a B cam

I got to tune another car with a On 3 turbo kit, with the 70 mm On 3 turbo. When the guy told me the combo, I was really interested to see what the car would do. Well today I got to find out. The car is a stock 5.0 rebuilt short block, with GT-40P heads, a B303 cam, and a Explorer intake. Well...

www.corral.net

 

[midnightlaundry]

You can get a PIMPXS for a little more that's Sequential. Plus, you get free support on the message boards from the company. There's just to much you can do with a computer to not use it..

PiMPxs Standalone Engine Management (Sequential EFI)

PiMPxs Standalone Engine Management

www.stinger-performance.com

 

[Laminar]

I hate to ask you this but could you link me to the kits? Thanks

MS3 kit:

MegaSquirt-III Engine Management System w/PCB3 - UnAssembled Kit with black case

DIYAutoTune.com has the finest quality MegaSquirt Kits available anywhere, and the biggest support team to be there for you if you have questions along the way. We are the One-Stop DIY EFI Shop. Pickup your MegaSquirt-3 kit here today!

www.diyautotune.com

MS3X card:

MegaSquirt-III MS3X Expansion Card

Unleash the full potential of the MegaSquirt-III with the MS3X board! 8cyl Sequential Fuel and Ignition. 2 Stage Progressive Nitrous, boost control, tach output, extra inputs for datalogging various sensors, and more!

www.diyautotune.com

If you're at all nervous about wiring their wiring pigtails are nice - color coded and printed. They're pricey, though, so if you're pinching pennies and willing to do the work yourself they're not 100% necessary.

 

[Laminar]

We have had very good luck with our ls powered, Chinese turbo‘D combo‘s with micro squirt and have yet to grow out of it. Must be different for ford stuff?

you have out grown micro squirt in one of your cars?

I went straight to MS3X because I wanted sequential ignition and injection. Microsquirt has 2 fuel and can be modified for 4 ignition channels, so you can run batch fire fuel and waste spark. Honestly it's probably fine and I doubt sequential is really doing that much for me.

I'm doing variable-slip traction control with 2 VSS inputs, oil and fuel pressure monitoring, launch control with clutch input switch and variable RPM input, dual wideband O2 inputs, PWM fan control, MAF input, PWM idle control, and interfacing with the stock dashboard oil pressure light, check engine light, traction control light, tach, fuel mpg gauge, and more. Microsquirt doesn't have the IO to accomplish all of that, and I don't even have boost or nitrous control to worry about.

 

[Northside.Gringo]

MS3 kit:

MegaSquirt-III Engine Management System w/PCB3 - UnAssembled Kit with black case

DIYAutoTune.com has the finest quality MegaSquirt Kits available anywhere, and the biggest support team to be there for you if you have questions along the way. We are the One-Stop DIY EFI Shop. Pickup your MegaSquirt-3 kit here today!

www.diyautotune.com

MS3X card:

MegaSquirt-III MS3X Expansion Card

Unleash the full potential of the MegaSquirt-III with the MS3X board! 8cyl Sequential Fuel and Ignition. 2 Stage Progressive Nitrous, boost control, tach output, extra inputs for datalogging various sensors, and more!

www.diyautotune.com

If you're at all nervous about wiring their wiring pigtails are nice - color coded and printed. They're pricey, though, so if you're pinching pennies and willing to do the work yourself they're not 100% necessary.

Thanks bud!

 

[tjm73]

The B303 with the turbo will work. If you have it (looks like you do?), you can run it. A friend of mine has a single turbo LX hatchback with a B303 and it runs very well. But there are better cams for turbo usage. The stock HO cam at the stock lift on the stock E7TE heads can make enough power to expire the factory block. The F303 should work fairly well and there are several other aftermarket cams that would work well too.

 

[Northside.Gringo]

The B303 with the turbo will work. If you have it (looks like you do?), you can run it. A friend of mine has a single turbo LX hatchback with a B303 and it runs very well. But there are better cams for turbo usage. The stock HO cam at the stock lift on the stock E7TE heads can make enough power to expire the factory block. The F303 should work fairly well and there are several other aftermarket cams that would work well too.

Yeah I already have the b303 cam I got it with my heads. Thanks for the info bud! I'll stick with this setup and just send it

 

[96pushrod]

Microsquirt is good for a motorcycle, but with a turbo V8 in a car you'll outgrow it immediately.

You don't need to spend over a grand to get a real Megasquirt - you can get a plug-and-play setup for $839.

Ford Mustang 8693 MegaSquirt Plug and Play PnP for 86-93 Mustang 5.0

Ford Mustang 8693 MegaSquirt Gen2 Plug and Play for the 1986-1993 Ford Mustang 5.0 and 1986-1988 Ford Thunderbird 5.0, installs in under 1 hour.

www.diyautotune.com

If you're willing to build your own kit you can get the MS3 kit for $445 and the MS3X expansion board for $110 and you'll have full sequential fuel and spark with boost control and all of the goodies for $560.

It's definitely the cheapest way to get a full-function standalone.

Pimpxs is just a touch bit more expensive and fully sequential.